[nabs-l] Job Hunting

Tue Aug 7 21:08:39 UTC 2012

I talked to HumanWare about the Braille Note Apex.
They said, since Rehab wouldn't buy anything over $6000, that if you
bought a Braille Note Apex, with an 18 cell display, for $4000, you
could then upgrade to a 32 cell, for $1600.
That's Rehab's job.
They should help you, if you're either in school, or working.
Blessings, Joshua

On 8/7/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> Most people need more than jaws on the job; a braille display and a
> notetaker are often needed.
> When you look for work, you will find how expensive technology is and that
> your employer is hesitant to hire you and buy it when they can hire sighted
>
> people with no accomodation purchases.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:43 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>
> Hi, Hope.
> What assistive technology would you need, that would be expensive?
> Who needs Jaws, when there's NVDA, which is free?
> Just a suggestion.
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 8/7/12, Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there. I received my degree in secondary education with concentration
>> in
>> Spanish and another in modern languages focusing in Spanish and German.
>> I've
>> decided though, that I do not want to teach. I would rather be a
>> vocational
>> rehabilitation counselor. I know that if I work at my state agency, I can
>> receive funding assistance with the grant provided by our essay. I'm
>> hoping
>> to go that route and obtain my masters degree. Unfortunately, public
>> schools
>> are also places of discrimination. It is very unlikely that they would
>> hire
>> totally blind individual to teach a high school Spanish class without
>> concerns. They would need to hire an Ed Tech and also there are some
>> specific assistive to technology that I would need that is very
>> expensive.
>> For example, Braille display, et cetera.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:19 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hope,
>>> Are you working? If not, what is your area of study? I thought you were
>>> studying to be a Spanish teacher or something.
>>> I saw you on the nobe list, so I know you want to teach.
>>> Its too bad they did what they did to you. Discrimination is live and
>>> well
>>> around here.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Hope Paulos
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:18 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>
>>> I couldn't agree more. Well said!!! There was an instance where I had
>>> applied for an interpreter work-at-home position and I had the skills
>>> and
>>> passed the language part of the interview with flying colors. As soon as
>>> I
>>> mentioned I was blind I was told that I couldn't use  a computer to take
>>> notes, but sighted people could use pencils. I was told I wouldn't be a
>>> good
>>> fit because I had to take breaks to take my dog outside. It was blatent
>>> discrimination. Needless to say I filed a complaint with department of
>>> justice and they got  called out. I don't think they'll be doing
>>> anything
>>> like that again. Just keep advocating!!
>>> Hope
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Gloria G
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:05 PM
>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> What I find interesting is the organizations that provide services to
>>> persons with disabilities and tell the clients they can do whatever they
>>> put
>>> their minds to as long as they work hard and advicate for themselves,
>>> turn
>>> away a blind person because they feel we are unable to complete tasks.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Misty Dawn Bradley" <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I also ran into the same issue when applying for a full-time position
>>>> with AmeriCorps. The people conducting the interview kept emphasizing
>>>> the paperwork, and I tried to explain that there are ways that I could
>>>> do the paperwork, but I still did not get the position. It surprised
>>>> me, because I worked in that same office and turned in all reports and
>>>> paperwork on time, although I had a different supervisor and it was a
>>>> different program. I think part of it was that I did not have
>>>> experience in the area of the position, but I also think part of it
>>>> was the paperwork, because that point was emphasized indirectly during
>>>> the
>>> interview.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Misty
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:41 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am not offended or anything by the questions that are asked. I am
>>>>> just upset that I am not given a chance. It is almost as if the
>>>>> employer has decided what I can and can not do the minute I walk in
>>>>> the door with my cane.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Dodge" <daviddod at buffalo.edu>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gloria,
>>>>>> It definitely sounds like you are going about things the right way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would try not to get discouraged or be concerned by the questions
>>>>>> the interviewer is asking. It is definitely not a bad thing for a
>>>>>> blind person to help a sighted person better understand how the
>>>>>> employment would work.
>>>>>> Think of it as an opportunity for you to advocate and teach the
>>>>>> potential employer something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best that can be done is what you are doing - honestly answering
>>>>>> questions and explaining things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>> David Dodge
>>>>>> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson English Major
>>>>>> University at Buffalo
>>>>>> 306 Clemens Hall
>>>>>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>>>>>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Hope,
>>>>>>> Did you go to get your masters in rehab counseling? I have also
>>>>>>> thought of getting a masters in rehab counseling.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos"
>>>>>>> <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <
>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:16 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. I'm currently hunting for a job as well. I just answered them
>>>>>>> as you
>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>> explaining how I would do certain things and giving examples. I
>>>>>>>> applied for a vocational rehabilitation counselor I. position and
>>>>>>>> I would be working with individuals with disabilities as well as
>>>>>>>> mental  health diagnoses.
>>>>>>>> Nothing offends me so they can ask any question they want
>>>>>>>> regarding my blindness. It's just a matter of overcoming the
>>>>>>>> stereotypes put on us by people who don't know what we really can
>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Gloria G
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:13 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Hope,
>>>>>>>> Do you currently work? If so how did you get around those
>>>>>>>> questions?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Paulos"
>>>>>>>> <hope.paulos at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:52 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Gloria. I think you're taking the right approach. I always
>>>>>>>> disclose my
>>>>>>>>> blindness (it's hard for them not to see  that I'm blind because
>>>>>>>>> of my guide dog). I'd just continue to advocate for yourself as
>>>>>>>>> far as working with at risk youth.
>>>>>>>>> Hope
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Gloria G
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 7:24 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Job Hunting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I was wondering how do you handle interviews when the talk of
>>>>>>>>> blindness comes up? I have had some interviews and in some cases
>>>>>>>>> the interviewer does not bring up my blindness, but I know it is
>>>>>>>>> something that is very noticable as soon as I walk in the door. I
>>>>>>>>> try to remain calm and answer the questions that pertain to the
>>>>>>>>> position I am applying for and I discuss how I would handle these
>>>>>>>>> tasks despite my blindness. There are those interviewers who just
>>>>>>>>> come right out and ask how I am going to complete the task
>>>>>>>>> required of me as a blind person. I answer and give examples of
>>>>>>>>> how I would complete the tasks. I guess I should have started out
>>>>>>>>> by saying I am a psychology and sociology double major and want
>>>>>>>>> to work with at risk youth as a counselor.
>>>>>>>>> Because I do not yet have my degree I am trying to gain as much
>>>>>>>>> experience as possible because this is what future employers will
>>>>>>>>> be looking for, but the problem I run into is there are many
>>>>>>>>> organizations that work with at risk youth in the town I live in,
>>>>>>>>> but there is always the question of how I am going to work with
>>>>>>>>> the youth as a blind person. I have also thought of doing any
>>>>>>>>> work that envolved providing services to youth, women, families
>>>>>>>>> such as, homeless shelters and things of that nature. I am just
>>>>>>>>> feeling defeated at this point, because every door I have opened
>>>>>>>>> has closed shut in my face, and it only seems to be due to me
>>>>>>>>> being blind. I just want someone to give me a chance because I
>>>>>>>>> know I can do the work.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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