[nabs-l] What is echolocation?

Carly Mihalakis carlymih at comcast.net
Tue Dec 4 12:52:43 UTC 2012


Good morning, Joshua,

Why must we frame that question in terms of which 
means of detection is "better?" In some cases the 
good ol' tongue cclick, is what doc ordered, 
while in others the metal tip works best for what 
you happen to be doing. At 04:25 AM 12/4/2012, Joshua Lester wrote:
>It does seem wierd and I agree with Darion that 
>we use it with our canes already.
>That's one of the disadvantages of using a guide 
>dog, because you don't get that information.
>I don't want to start an argument on which is 
>better, but this particular reason is another reason to stick with the cane.
>Blessings, Joshua
>________________________________________
>From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on 
>behalf of Darian Smith [dsmithnfb at gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:13 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What is echolocation?
>
>Hello List.  Interesting  topic indeed. It  is My understanding that
>the blind use Echo location  already.
>  here's the thing,  if you are using a cane, and doing so properly,
>you are likely using echo location.
>  I know that some people like to make a clicking soung with their
>tongue in order to achieve this, but I personally find it a bit
>awkward  to use in social situations (what you choose to use in the
>comfort of your own dwelling is  completely up to you).
>   I think you can use echo location with any type of cane, but I find
>it better to use a cane  that has a metel tip  much like  the long
>white NFB canes or an Iowa cane.
>  The nice thing about using a cane is  that you don't need to stop
>mid-conversation to "click", rather you can "tap"
>  along and have a conversation with your professort, co-worker, or   parent.
>
>   Thanks,
>   Darian
>
>
>On 12/3/12, Tim Johnson <tim.johnson81 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, that's the best way to reach him, his email address is:
> > Daniel.kish at worldaccessfortheblind.org
> >
> > He's a very busy many but he is always happy to hear from new people
> > interested in echolocation.
> >
> > Tim
> > http://www.HumanEcholocation.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Ashley Bramlett
> > <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:
> >
> >> yes, just go to his website; its world access for the blind; his email
> >> should be there.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Liliya Asadullina
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:47 PM
> >>
> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What is echolocation?
> >>
> >> Hello Tim,
> >> My name is Lily and I was wondering if there is anyway I could get in
> >> touch with Mr. Kish via email or something?
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> On 11/26/12, Tim Johnson <tim.johnson81 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe that was Daniel Kish?  I've been working with him and some of his
> >>> colleagues at World Access for the Blind on this book.  He has done a
> >>> great
> >>> deal to bring echolocation into the public eye and offers one-on-one
> >>> training all over the world.
> >>>
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Joshua Lester <
> >>> 
> JLester8462 at pccuaedu.**onmicrosoft.com<JLester8462 at pccuaedu.onmicrosoft.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  I've heard of you, or someone at least advertising something like this
> >>> in
> >>>> an interview on a major news network.
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> ______________________________**__________
> >>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Tim Johnson [
> >>>> tim.johnson81 at gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:37 AM
> >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] What is echolocation?
> >>>>
> >>>> Echolocation is the ability to “SEE” objects using sound instead of
> >>>> sight.
> >>>>
> >>>> Echolocation is a fundamentally simple skill that many blind people use
> >>>> daily to navigate and understand their environment. This skill is
> >>>> sometimes
> >>>> misunderstood, but it’s far more realistic and much easier than you may
> >>>> think.
> >>>>
> >>>> A new book, the first of its kind, has recently been published to help
> >>>> the
> >>>> blind community become more familiar with this mode of perception and
> >>>> to
> >>>> help people understand this very intriguing skill.  There is often a
> >>>> lot
> >>>> of
> >>>> hesitation within the blind community to open up to attempting
> >>>> echolocation, but the author demystifies the growing practice of active
> >>>> echolocation in a way that anyone can understand, and gives the reader
> >>>> simple exercises, examples, and lessons as a starting point for
> >>>> launching
> >>>> you into a successful practice of active echolocation.  The Beginner's
> >>>> Guide to Echolocation for the Blind and Visually Impaired is now
> >>>> available
> >>>> in large print paperback, accessible ms word edition and audiobook.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a little bit about how it works:
> >>>> Sound waves ­ like ripples in a pond ­ reflect differently off of all
> >>>> objects and surfaces. This makes it possible for the trained ear to
> >>>> distinguish shape, size, distance and material of our surroundings.
> >>>> Musicians will tell you that “reverb” causes each room or surface to
> >>>> have
> >>>> its own unique sound response. With sensitization and applied practice
> >>>> of
> >>>> this skill, it’s possible for people with visual impairments all over
> >>>> the
> >>>> world to become increasingly independent, supplementing their existing
> >>>> forms of orientation and mobility with the intrinsic awareness that
> >>>> echolocation can provide.
> >>>>
> >>>> Echolocation requires no special equipment nor any special talent. The
> >>>> human body and mind are truly marvels of nature that grant us with
> >>>> capabilities you may never know you had. If you can hear, you can
> >>>> echolocate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Understanding the simplicity of this skill will allow you to shift your
> >>>> way
> >>>> of thinking to accommodate an expanded awareness of your environment.
> >>>> With
> >>>> this awareness comes independence, confidence, new possibilities and
> >>>> new
> >>>> opportunities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Read some reviews to hear what other blind people are saying about this
> >>>> new
> >>>> book:
> >>>> http://www.humanecholocation.**com/review-from-in-the-center-**
> >>>> 
> of-the-roof/<http://www.humanecholocation.com/review-from-in-the-center-of-the-roof/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Paperback edition:
> >>>> 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/**product/1478371080/<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1478371080/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Accessible edition:
> >>>> 
> http://www.humanecholocation.**com/echolocation-guide-msword-**format/<http://www.humanecholocation.com/echolocation-guide-msword-format/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Audiobook edition:
> >>>> 
> http://www.humanecholocation.**com/audiobook/<http://www.humanecholocation.com/audiobook/>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know if you have any questions about the book.  I would
> >>>> be
> >>>> happy to speak with any of you one-on-one about your hesitations about
> >>>> learning echolocation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> Tim Johnson
> >>>> www.HumanEcholocation.com
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