[nabs-l] question on Ipods

Sun Jan 1 00:07:14 UTC 2012

The iPod classic does not have VoiceIver. If you need an accessible
music player get a nano. You will love the thing, really!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Chris,
> It sounds like your fifth generation is not touch screen and the sixth
> generation is. That is why I'm hearing different stories from different
> people. No one mentioned the classic. Is ipod classic touch screen? How does
> it operate? Does it have voice over?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:23 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Oh, so that must be the touch screen one.
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aubrie Lucas" <aubielynn at gmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:06:25 -0900
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> The Sixth Generation.  It was released in September of last year.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:03 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> It must be.  I thought the 5th generation was pretty new, but I
> guess I was
> wrong.  What is the latest Nano model?
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
> can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
> them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
> Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at
> www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:00:13 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi all,
> I checked online.  The Ipod nano must be a touch screen.  Chris,
> yours with
> the touch wheel and buttons must be older.
> The description said
> Getting where you want to go is simple on iPod nano.  The large
> icons make
> scrolling and tapping to get to your favorite music, workout,
> radio
> station, or clock face easy.  View icons one at a time, or
> display four
> icons on each screen.  And you can change the order of the icons
> to find
> your stuff fast.
>
>
> Ashley-----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:59 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Good idea.
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
> can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
> them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
> Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at
> www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:41:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Chris,
> The way you describe your ipod nano sounds simple.  I don't want
> a touch
> screen.  So if the newer ipod nanos do that, I'll stick with the
> shuffle.
> You say yours is a fifth generation.  I'll see if that is still
> sold.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:43 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> The Nano keypad is just like the Shuffle then, at least on mine.
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
> can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
> them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
> Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at
> www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Chris,
> You must really love music; I'm not sure I need a 8 gb  size;
> maybe four or
> six gb would do for me.
> Are the buttons on the nano on a keypad? Is it like a phone
> keypad? On the
> shuffle, the buttons are around the circular okay button.
> Now that I know you do not have to interact with the screen much
> and do
> gestures, maybe I could learn the nano.
> I like the idea of marking it with dots or tape.  I've also used
> the clock
> face reference to learn button functions.  Yes the  ipod shuffle
> is old.
> So next one will be a shuffle or a nano.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> Here are some answers to your questions:
>
> * Memory Space: That Shuffle must be pretty old! The newer iPod's
> come in a
> lot bigger sizes; I have a 8 GB Nano.  There are 16 gig models
> too.
>
> * VoiceOver: All iPods after the Classic have VoiceOver built in,
> to the
> best of my knowledge.  It might have started with the 1st
> generation Nano,
> though; I can't remember.
>
> * Nano and touch stcreens: I have a Nano, and it is a combination
> of a
> touch screen and buttons.  However, you can't really tell that
> they are
> buttons at first because they're not very raised, so it looks
> like a touch
> screen.  To fix this problem, I put Wiki sticks on each button to
> raise
> them, and had a sighted person help me learn which button did
> what.  I then
> used the clock-face technique to learn it.  On the Nano, the
> button at: 12
> o'clock is the "go forward" button (to go forward a track in an
> album or go
> to the next song in a playlist, genius mix, or when the iPod is
> in shuffle
> mode,) 3 o'clock is the play/pause button, 6 o'clock is the go
> back button,
> and 9 o'clock is the menu button (to go to the previous menu.)
> The button
> in the middle of the circle where all the buttons are is the "OK"
> or
> "select" button.  If you are hearing a song and you want to know
> the title
> and artist of the song that is playing, just hit the center
> button and
> VoiceOver will tell you.  You may have to do this twice.  And if
> you shake
> the device, it will shuffle the songs; this is the "shake to
> shuffle"
> feature.  The only time you will need to use a touchscreen-like
> gesture is
> when you are in a menu.  Just a little flick (1 finger) forward
> will move
> you to the next item in the menu; a flick back will move you to
> the
> previous item in the menu.  When you get to the item you want,
> hit the
> center button.
>
> If you have any more questions about the iPod Nano, please let me
> know!
> Hope this helps!
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
> can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
> them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
> Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at
> www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:57:32 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi all,
>
> What are your experiences with Ipods? Are all now built in with
> that
> talking speech voice over? I have a small ipod shuffle that was a
> present
> to me a few years ago.
> What memory sizes do Ipod shuffles come in now? Mine is only 1
> gig, which
> I?셫 discovering is not big enough!
> I?셫 not interested in a touch screen device because I think it
> would be
> too easy to press the wrong thing.  Are any ipods screen based
> but not a
> touch screen? I thought the ipod nano was a touch screen, but not
> sure.
>
> Anyone used an ipod for books or movies? What is the navigation
> ability
> with them? By chapter?
> I might get an ipod again  with a bigger memory capacity and
> wondered my
> options.  I like the shuffle because its small and simple to use;
> few
> buttons.  So I might stick with that.
>
> Thanks.
> Ashley
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