[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

[Ashley Bramlett]

Joshua,
You get books for your vr stream by downloading. I suggest you start with 
NLS bard as its easier. Download books and save them to your sd card for 
your vr stream. Then once you get that, try learning ally.
You will never have a digital book for your stream unless you download one. 
Oh, and if you have an audible membership or just purchase a book from them, 
your stream plays those books too; the site www.audible.com has thousands of 
books.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:45 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
I don't have any books for it, now.
I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
> E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream. It's
> really quite simple.
> Patrick
>
> On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> Wow!
>> I still use the CD player for my classes.
>> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Antonio,
>>> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
>>> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they changed
>>> it.
>>> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you have a cd
>>> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no longer
>>> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,  more
>>> probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
>>> works!
>>> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd player is
>>> IMO
>>> easy to use and simple.
>>>
>>> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
>>> which
>>> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places like
>>> nls
>>> and learning ally.
>>>
>>> I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed. With
>>> changing
>>> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
>>> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
>>> correct
>>> purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that blind people
>>> have
>>> depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't let them
>>> forget
>>> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating 
>>> something
>>> is
>>> not accessible won't help.
>>>
>>> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and complex
>>> organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the main
>>> page
>>> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher anymore
>>> without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books with the
>>> same
>>> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>>> frustrated,
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Antonio Guimaraes
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>
>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>
>>> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
>>> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the services
>>> we've come to know in previous years.
>>>
>>> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use their
>>> new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to their You
>>> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people like
>>> you for some feedback.
>>>
>>> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning Ally's
>>> download features.
>>>
>>> I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too have come
>>> up against issues with the download service.
>>>
>>> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
>>> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
>>> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>>>
>>> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported issues, and
>>> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
>>> Learning Ally's part.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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