[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Tue Jan 3 05:12:40 UTC 2012

What is this player called, that uses the cartredges?
Thanks, Joshua

On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> Actually you do not use cartriges with vr stream. you only use sd cards. it
> only takes little sd cards.
> Its easy to slide in; it only goes one way; it took me a few tries to figure
> out the right way as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:50 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
> Thanks, Nicole, for the offer.
> I'll do, when I get the cartredge, because that's my main problem,
> (putting the darn thing in!)
> Thanks again.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/2/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> If you would like help using the VR Stream, you can email me off list.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> I use the cd player too. The new victor reader strattus allows you to
>>> play
>>>
>>> daisy cds as well as  a USB slot for downloaded books and I think a sd
>>> card. I have a vr stream, but like you I find it hard to figure out.
>>>
>>> I've also heard of other blind people having problems with the learning
>>> ally downloads.  Sadly, they are not really much an ally to the blind
>>> now.
>>>
>>> They took blind out of their name and as I said, I feel their website,
>>> including the download features, is not very user friendly. For instance
>>> before in your book search results you could press H to see each book
>>> title and information underneath it. Now they are tables and you only see
>>> the book in a link. And they have pictures of each book cover. Notice
>>> jaws
>>>
>>> saying graphic a million times; that is because they added pictures to
>>> the
>>>
>>> book catalog. And with more links and clutter, you cannot find the text
>>> as
>>>
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:02 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>
>>> Wow!
>>> I still use the CD player for my classes.
>>> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Antonio,
>>>> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
>>>> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they changed
>>>> it.
>>>> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you have a cd
>>>> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no longer
>>>> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,  more
>>>> probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
>>>> works!
>>>> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd player is
>>>> IMO
>>>> easy to use and simple.
>>>>
>>>> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
>>>> which
>>>> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places like
>>>> nls
>>>> and learning ally.
>>>>
>>>> I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed. With
>>>> changing
>>>> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
>>>> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
>>>> correct
>>>> purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that blind people
>>>> have
>>>> depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't let them
>>>> forget
>>>> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating
>>>> something
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>> not accessible won't help.
>>>>
>>>> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and complex
>>>> organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the main
>>>> page
>>>> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher anymore
>>>> without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books with the
>>>> same
>>>> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>>>> frustrated,
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Antonio Guimaraes
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>
>>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>>
>>>> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
>>>> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the services
>>>> we've come to know in previous years.
>>>>
>>>> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use their
>>>> new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to their You
>>>> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people like
>>>> you for some feedback.
>>>>
>>>> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning Ally's
>>>> download features.
>>>>
>>>> I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too have come
>>>> up against issues with the download service.
>>>>
>>>> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
>>>> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
>>>> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>>>>
>>>> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported issues, and
>>>> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
>>>> Learning Ally's part.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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