[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Tue Jan 3 23:57:10 UTC 2012

It's not the stream.
I thought it was.
It's the new NLS digital player.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/3/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> You should have some sample books which came with your Stream, if
> it's like mine.  They are in the Talking Books bookshelf.  Hit
> the bookshelf key (which is like the number 1 on a phone keypad,
> which is what the Stream's keypad is designed like) until it says
> "talking books." Then to move between the books, hit the 4
> (previous book) and 6 (next book) keys.  Also, I would recommend
> turning the key describer on by pressing and holding the 0 key,
> then hitting each key on the keypad so you know what it does.
> Hope this helps,
>
> Chris
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:45:02 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
> I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
> I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
> I don't have any books for it, now.
> I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Joshua,
>  E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.
> It's
>  really quite simple.
>  Patrick
>
>  On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>  Wow!
>  I still use the CD player for my classes.
>  I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>  Blessings, Joshua
>
>  On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  Antonio,
>  What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out
> the
>  download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they
> changed
>  it.
>  I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind.  If you
> have a cd
>  player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no
> longer
>  offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr
> classic,  more
>  probably will download.  I still have my old vr wave and
> thankfully it
>  works!
>  Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd
> player is
>  IMO
>  easy to use and simple.
>
>  Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr
> strattus,
>  which
>  both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many
> places like
>  nls
>  and learning ally.
>
>  I encourage you to write learning ally.  Many are disappointed.
> With
>  changing
>  their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on
> learning
>  disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for
> politically
>  correct
>  purposes.  Tell them to still include blind people and that
> blind people
>  have
>  depended on them for over 30 years since they started.  Don't
> let them
>  forget
>  us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges.  Stating
> something
>  is
>  not accessible won't help.
>
>  Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate.  More images and
> complex
>  organization.  Like no longer can you see the book catalog from
> the main
>  page
>  and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher
> anymore
>  without clicking on something extra.  So I see like ten books
> with the
>  same
>  or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>  frustrated,
>  Ashley
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Antonio Guimaraes
>  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
>  Dear NABS members,
>
>  It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally
> download
>  features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the
> services
>  we've come to know in previous years.
>
>  Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to
> use their
>  new and improved program for downloads.  I have listened to
> their You
>  Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to
> people like
>  you for some feedback.
>
>  There are several reports that blind readers can not use
> Learning Ally's
>  download features.
>
>  I am not a happy scholar.  I am writing to find out if you too
> have come
>  up against issues with the download service.
>
>  The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of
> access
>  from an organization that has long been at the forefront in
> providing
>  access to recorded texts for blind users.
>
>  Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported
> issues, and
>  hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an
> oversight on
>  Learning Ally's part.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Antonio Guimaraes
>
>
>
>
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