[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Wed Jan 4 11:58:01 UTC 2012

I do not know. Frankly I rearly get braille textbooks since I left ASB. The last time my university spent 10,000 dollars for a book which was not even the same book that the class was using and was not even completely done. 
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller

--- On Tue, 1/3/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:

> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 11:20 PM
> That's exactly right!
> We need more options, to replace these older ones, that are
> going away.
> Is it true, that the Rightsville Prison, (Rightsville,
> Arkansas,) has
> stopped it's Braille transcribers program?
> Anmol may know this.
> That's what my college keeps telling me, but I don't know
> where they
> got that information.
> Thanks, Joshua
> 
> On 1/3/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> wrote:
> > You might be able to request a book, but don't quote
> me on that. The DRC at
> > colleges should contact Bookshare to see if they can
> help.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list"
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
> >
> >
> >> They are only an ally to those with dislexia.
> >> They don't care about us, anymore.
> >> Bookshare may be our only option, now, if only
> they start doing
> >> textbooks, which I doubt will happen.
> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/3/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Josh, and other interesteds,
> >>>
> >>> Ally?
> >>> How can they call themselves something so
> ridiculous as Learning
> >>> Ally? Really? Some ally. We really are without
> friends, if that's
> >>> what they consider as such.
> >>> Car
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> > Yes, but, sometimes, you have to just
> take what you can get,
> >>>> especially once
> >>>> > you get into college.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> >>>> > To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list"
> >>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48
> PM
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost
> an ally
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>I personally don't want to have
> the synthesized voice on the Stream
> >>>> >>read
> >>>> >> a
> >>>> >>book to me, especially a novel or
> textbook, and would go the RFBD
> >>>> >>route
> >>>> >>whenever possible.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Chris
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> "The real problem of blindness is
> not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> >>>> >> problem is the misunderstanding
> and lack of education that exists.
> >>>> >> If
> >>>> >> a
> >>>> >> blind person has the proper
> training and opportunity, blindness can
> >>>> >> be
> >>>> >> reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> >>>> >> -- Kenneth Jernigan
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >> From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini
> at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
> >>>> >> To: "National Association of
> Blind Students mailing list"
> >>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>> >> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012
> 20:10:14 -0800
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we
> lost an ally
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> You don't have to have a
> book.  It also plays MP3 files and reads TXT
> >>>> >> files.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> >>>> >> To: "National Association of
> Blind Students mailing list"
> >>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012
> 6:45 PM
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we
> lost an ally
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I was shwon one, at convention, 2
> years ago.
> >>>> >> I have one, but I'm not sure
> about working it.
> >>>> >> I don't have any books for it,
> now.
> >>>> >> I'll save your address, and
> E-mail you when I get a book.
> >>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> Joshua,
> >>>> >> E-mail me off list and I can help
> you figure out the Stream.  It's
> >>>> >> really quite simple.
> >>>> >> Patrick
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> Wow!
> >>>> >> I still use the CD player for my
> classes.
> >>>> >> I hate the Victor Stream, because
> I can't figure it out!
> >>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> Antonio,
> >>>> >> What are the problems? Do you use
> jaws? I've tried to figure out the
> >>>> >> download; it took me a while to
> learn the old way, and now they
> >>>> >> changed
> >>>> >> it.
> >>>> >> I'm not the most patient with
> technology, keep in mind.  If you have
> >>>> >> a
> >>>> >> cd
> >>>> >> player, you still can order daisy
> cds, but now that humanware no
> >>>> >> longer
> >>>> >> offers the little daisy players;
> vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,
> >>>> >> more
> >>>> >> probably will download.  I
> still have my old vr wave and thankfully
> >>>> >> it
> >>>> >> works!
> >>>> >> Since as you said downloading is
> not friendly and a Daisy cd player
> >>>> >> is
> >>>> >> IMO
> >>>> >> easy to use and simple.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Humanware recently released a new
> victor reader player, vr strattus,
> >>>> >> which
> >>>> >> both plays those daisy cds and
> downloadable books from many places
> >>>> >> like
> >>>> >> nls
> >>>> >> and learning ally.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I encourage you to write learning
> ally.  Many are disappointed.  With
> >>>> >> changing
> >>>> >> their name, it seems they changed
> their mission to focus on learning
> >>>> >> disabilities without identifying
> them as disabled, for politically
> >>>> >> correct
> >>>> >> purposes.  Tell them to
> still include blind people and that blind
> >>>> >> people
> >>>> >> have
> >>>> >> depended on them for over 30
> years since they started.  Don't let
> >>>> >> them
> >>>> >> forget
> >>>> >> us and be specific as to your
> accessibility challenges.  Stating
> >>>> >> something
> >>>> >> is
> >>>> >> not accessible won't help.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Also IMo, their site is more hard
> to navigate.  More images and
> >>>> >> complex
> >>>> >> organization.  Like no
> longer can you see the book catalog from the
> >>>> >> main
> >>>> >> page
> >>>> >> and when you search books you
> cannot read the edition/publisher
> >>>> >> anymore
> >>>> >> without clicking on something
> extra.  So I see like ten books with
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> same
> >>>> >> or similar name and it takes
> longer to figure out what to pick.
> >>>> >> frustrated,
> >>>> >> Ashley
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> >> From: Antonio Guimaraes
> >>>> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012
> 8:35 PM
> >>>> >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost
> an ally
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Dear NABS members,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It is more than obvious to me
> that the new Learning Ally download
> >>>> >> features fall short of offering
> blind screen reader users the
> >>>> >> services
> >>>> >> we've come to know in previous
> years.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Today I experienced at least an
> hour of frustrations trying to use
> >>>> >> their
> >>>> >> new and improved program for
> downloads.  I have listened to their You
> >>>> >> Tube video explaining the
> process, and then reached out to people
> >>>> >> like
> >>>> >> you for some feedback.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> There are several reports that
> blind readers can not use Learning
> >>>> >> Ally's
> >>>> >> download features.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I am not a happy scholar.  I
> am writing to find out if you too have
> >>>> >> come
> >>>> >> up against issues with the
> download service.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The NABS division and its
> membership should not accept lack of access
> >>>> >> from an organization that has
> long been at the forefront in providing
> >>>> >> access to recorded texts for
> blind users.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Your experience will only help
> confirm some of the reported issues,
> >>>> >> and
> >>>> >> hopefully result in rectifying
> what must certainly be an oversight on
> >>>> >> Learning Ally's part.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Sincerely,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Antonio Guimaraes
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
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