[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Fri Jan 6 21:24:47 UTC 2012
Do you mean DTB? If so, that's the one you want. If you have
Humanware Companion, just save the file to your computer and
Companion will move it to the Stream's SD card, placing it in the
Talking Books bookshelf. The Stream can read HTML, and will
place those books in the Text Files bookshelf.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:26:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Hi,
Can anyone tell me when down loading books from bookshare, if I
want to put
the book on my victor stream I thought I should download the
daizy version
of the book. When I extract the zipped file I get a few choices
like DTD or
html. Which of the files do I choose to put on my stream? Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Hi Joshua,
Actually, I think they still do good in some areas; nice
customer service
reps and they braille the cd sleeves so you know what book is
inside.
I think they will redo their site if someone tells them.
And I don't know an organization that has more textbooks than
learning
ally. Now with the daisy format, you can jump to particular
pages and
peruse a book faster than before. I remember the days of four
track tapes.
Also, I know what its like to use readers, having them not show
up and
getting behind in your work or having a reader quit mid
semester. So
while they are flawed, IMO its better than before.
And how can you say they don't care? Have you talked to them
about it and
gotten a response?
I doubt it. We cannot make assumptions about them without some
statement
from them. I do agree it does not seem like their an ally now.
Can you
have a sighted person help you navigate the screen till they get
it fixed?
You can still use them
Unfortunately, accessibility when you are a minority is an after
thought.
No it should not be that way, but sadly it is.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 12:06 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
They are only an ally to those with dislexia.
They don't care about us, anymore.
Bookshare may be our only option, now, if only they start doing
textbooks, which I doubt will happen.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/3/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi, Josh, and other interesteds,
Ally?
How can they call themselves something so ridiculous as Learning
Ally? Really? Some ally. We really are without friends, if
that's
what they consider as such.
Car
Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
Yes, but, sometimes, you have to just take what you can get,
especially once
you get into college.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
I personally don't want to have the synthesized voice on the
Stream
read
a
book to me, especially a novel or textbook, and would go the RFBD
route
whenever possible.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.
If
a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can
be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:10:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
You don't have to have a book. It also plays MP3 files and
reads TXT
files.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
I don't have any books for it, now.
I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
Joshua,
E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.
It's
really quite simple.
Patrick
On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
Wow!
I still use the CD player for my classes.
I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Antonio,
What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out
the
download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they
changed
it.
I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you
have
a
cd
player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no
longer
offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr
classic,
more
probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and
thankfully
it
works!
Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd
player
is
IMO
easy to use and simple.
Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr
strattus,
which
both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many
places
like
nls
and learning ally.
I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed.
With
changing
their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on
learning
disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for
politically
correct
purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that
blind
people
have
depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't
let
them
forget
us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating
something
is
not accessible won't help.
Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and
complex
organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from
the
main
page
and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher
anymore
without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books
with
the
same
or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
frustrated,
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Guimaraes
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Dear NABS members,
It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally
download
features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the
services
we've come to know in previous years.
Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to
use
their
new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to
their You
Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to
people
like
you for some feedback.
There are several reports that blind readers can not use
Learning
Ally's
download features.
I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too
have
come
up against issues with the download service.
The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of
access
from an organization that has long been at the forefront in
providing
access to recorded texts for blind users.
Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported
issues,
and
hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an
oversight on
Learning Ally's part.
Sincerely,
Antonio Guimaraes
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