[nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness

Wed Jan 11 23:01:23 UTC 2012

that is true. We search for funding to get what we need. Technology helps 
level the playing field, but its expensive.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Loren Wakefield
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:25 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness

get what you need from whereever you can obtain it.  This would include the
willingness to take out loans.  Make the state agency do their job.  And
also tap in to other sources.  As long as it is legal and moral, who cares
where the funding comes from?

Loren

-----Original Message----- 
From: Carly
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:56 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness

Good morning, List,

I fervently disagree! State agencies are perceived to be so sucky
because consumers like you people turn to private entities for
funding purposes so, the public entities aren't as much in demand and
therefore, don't see how improvement and becoming better.
People usually don't share for the hell of it. You gotta take these
public, agencies up on the law of helping US! That's why they exist
in the first place.
At 09:20 AM 1/11/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>Joshua,
>No one gets everything they want or need. I recommend getting family help 
>to purchase products or if needed turn to a charity such as lions clubs.
>Its my experience that the VR system isn't too helpful. I wanted them to 
>authorize computer training from an outside service provider they often 
>use. Well, months later in january, I still have no training. Once 
>authorization is submitted, I get only eight hours. That isn't much, but 
>hopefully will get me started with the applications I need to learn.
>
>As far as people with more experience, there are tons; just ask around in 
>nfb. Fred Schroeder is one but he is in VA, but he would travel over there 
>as an advocate if something serious happens. Also, contacting any number of 
>civil right nonprofits to be an advocate may help as well.
>Ashley
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester
>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:51 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness
>
>It would be helpful, if we had people that had more experience with
>us, over our DSB, in headquarters.
>I take what I can get, and I'm thankful for it, but I was surprised,
>when that all went down, on Monday.
>Blessings, Joshua
>
>On 1/11/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>Then you need to critique the process, not the person who is a part of it.
>>The fact that she did not know what a PacMate was was probably beyond her
>>control. No, that is not crazy, especially if she has never worked with
>>people who are blind before. The things that are part of our every day
>>lives--PacMates, BrailleNotes, embossers, screen readers, etc--are
>>completely new to sighted people, and the training programs for councelors
>>probably do not have enough information.
>>     Furthermore, Joshua, you really should consider how you state your
>>feedback. I agree that you have many important and valid points, but, if
>>phrased in the wrong way, certain people may start remembering your 
>>slightly
>>harsh comments more than your other qualities.
>>
>>Nicole
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:08 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness
>>
>>
>>>I don't know if it was a mistake.
>>>She's new, and she hasn't dealt with blind people before.
>>>This is her first time.
>>>I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, this time, but we need to make
>>>sure people know about the technology, so that Froidian slips like
>>>that don't happen.
>>>The Department of Social Services has taken over VR, for my state,
>>>which complecates the problem, though.
>>>Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>>On 1/11/12, Anjelina <anjelinac26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Joshua,
>>>>I don't mean any disrespect, but could it have been a mistake by your
>>>>rehab
>>>>counselor?
>>>>At times I mix up words or call items by different names; I don't think
>>>>this
>>>>is a matter of ignorance.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Joshua Lester
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:26 AM
>>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] Rehab Counselors, and ignorance of blindness
>>>>
>>>>Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>>>>I'd like to discuss a topic, that has come up, in my life.
>>>>I was telling you, that I might receive a Pac Mate, from my Rehab 
>>>>office.
>>>>I'm not sure, if I told you, that my Rehab counselor slipped, and
>>>>called it a "Packman."
>>>>That's crazy, because I thought rehab counselors should, at least,
>>>>have some knowledge of assistive technology, for the blind, that
>>>>they're supposed to be assisting.
>>>>Has anyone had trouble in the past, with Rehab counselors, in regards to
>>>>this?
>>>>What can we do, to stop this ignorance from spreading, within the
>>>>state VR system?
>>>>Thanks, Joshua
>>>>
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>>>>Anjelina
>>>>
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