[nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Jan 14 03:54:12 UTC 2012 

Oh yes, I totally agree! I still use hardcopy for a lot of 
things, including some tests.  My standardized tests are all in 
hardcopy Braille, which looks like a novel, but that's OK with 
me.  I believe you can use technology when it is available to 
you, but you need a backup in case that technology doesn't work 
or does something weird; that backup is hardcopy Braille.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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Date sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:14:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

Chris,
I had hard copy braille in high school and bookshare did not 
exist then.
I think you need to keep up reading hard copy braille and do so 
fluently;
otherwise you are doing yourself a disservice.  You may hate the 
heavy
volumes of braille.  I had trouble carrying all of them, but I'm 
glad I
learned and practiced reading.  I say this because you read 
differently in
real braille.  You read with two hands and split mid line.  The 
right hand
finishes the line and the left hand moves down and waits for the 
right.  The
left acts as a place holder kind of.  You only see one line of 
text with a
braille display.  I'm glad you have some braille, even if its 
electronic.  But
due to the heavy and space limitations of braille, I feel 
teachers push
audio.  After all, the vr stream is so light and compact.

Gee kids are spoiled these days.  Bookshare and textbooks on your 
braille
computer.  Unheard of when I was in school.  Me thinks this opens 
the door for
cheating too when doing tests; unless you take those in hard copy 
braille.
Oh, and I did that.  I actually read those fifty question 
multiple choice
tests in braille for multiple subjects and brailled my answers on 
the
brailler; and then my TVI put them on the print test or scantron.  
Woe,
things have change, and somewhat for the worse.
We need to keep up our braille skills after all the braillenote 
might crash
and will you take that thing to say a public speech? hmm.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:36 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

I have my textbooks either on my Stream in audio format from RFBD
or from Bookshare in BRF format on my BrailleNote.  I'll tell
you; that Stream was a life-saver, what with 30 volumes of
Braille a textbook!

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:26:10 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

you can also get books and put them on your computer in word or
pdf files
and you can search quick and also work on your spelling.  I am
not against
braille by no means I myself am a braille reader, but I am just
suggesting a
way that won't break your back or arms by carrying braille books
in your
back pack.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting


To me, the ideal way would be to have both.  I would want an
audio one
that would be on an sd card and the like, and another file on my
apex for
quick searches in class or other activities.  Also to me, having
it in
braille, greatly assist me in my spelling looking better than it
might
otherwise.  I know, it's nice to dream.

Loren



-----Original Message-----
From: Gloria G
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

Hi,
Wouldn't it be easier and more convient to have college texts on
audio
rather than braille any way? It would take a while to use
braille in
college.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting


I was able to talk to the instructor, via E-mail.
I'm going to get my books from Learning Ally.
The DSB needed to be notified, 6 months ahead of time, in order
to get
my books in Braille, which is impossible, because, how can I
know, 6
months ahead of time, what classes I need to take?
This is crazy!
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/10/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
Um...

(1) Why can't you get anything in Braille? Is the DSB not
offering you anything in Braille anymore? I thought you said you
had to deal with them if you are to get your books in Braille.
Well, if you get a Pacmate, you won't need hardcopies.
2.  How did you deal with the last compressed video class you
took? I remember you talking about that on the list before, but
can't remember how you handled it if you took the class.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

  ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:40:57 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Results of my Rehab meeting

Well, I have some good news, and bad news, from this meeting.
The good news, I'm finally getting some cooperation, and I might
be
able to have a Pac Mate, for the rest of my college tenure.
The bad news, is as follows.
#1.  I can't get anything, in Braille.
#2.  All of my classes are at night, except for College Algebra.
#3.  They're letting me take a Philosophy class, in place of
Music
Appreciation, but there's one problem!
It's another compressed video class!
#4.  I won't get to graduate in May.
They're claiming, that I lack 4 hours, so I'll have to take that
other
Science class, in the Fall.
That's a community college for you!
Oh well!
At least, this time, the counselor showed up, (LOL!)
Blessings, Joshua

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