[nabs-l] school is not accomodating

[Joshua Lester]

The ADA does only apply to buildings, but the Students with
Disabilities Act applies to everything else.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> They do have to be brailled. But as I said earlier, the ADA only applies to
> buildings constructed after the law or if they do renovations.
> But still, if you need it, they should place signage there upon request.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gloria G
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 6:56 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>
> Hi,
> This is also interesting for me to hear because I had the idea that is was
> law that the buildings or the room numbers had to be brailled
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arielle Silverman" <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>
>
> Hi Ashley,
> I understand your situation at school is frustrating, but I'm not sure
> that the school is actually in violation of any ADA mandates. Schools
> aren't necessarily required to have a DSO at all, much less purchase a
> scanner and Braille embosser. And while your building's layout may be
> very annoying to try and navigate, it's not inaccessible to you as a
> blind person. I'm not sure the ADA says anything about making
> buildings accessible to the blind except perhaps to put Braille
> signage on elevators. I don't know if Braille is required on doors.
> I think your first priority should probably be finding a more reliable
> way to get access to your books and exams. As for the JAWS issue, can
> you install your copy of JAWS as a demo on your school computer
> instead of asking them to buy another license? Or you can get a
> netbook, which is a very lightweight laptop, for $400 or less.
> You might see if the DSO will help you find a reader to read your
> texts or if there is a scanner anywhere on campus, like in the library
> or student services building, if DSO doesn't have one. If not, you can
> advertise for readers in your classes, which I know you already have
> experience with.
> As for getting around the building, if you can walk through it a few
> times with a reader, friend, or O&M and just learn to get to a few
> locations within the building you will probably have an easier time.
> You don't need to learn the whole building; just the location of the
> places you need to go frequently.
> I agree that the inaccessible website and CD's are a problem, but it
> sounds like that's the fault of the publisher, not the fault of the
> school, right?
> Arielle
>
> On 1/20/12, jeff crouch <jeffanel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> yes, i am in 8th grade. I am very formiller with the ada and the idea.
>> I like studying stuff like this.
>>
>> On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Jeff,
>>> You have more rights if you are in middle or high school, which I think
>>> you
>>> are! Under the Individuals with disabilities education Act, idea, you
>>> have
>>> a
>>> right to a free and appropriate education.
>>> And your parents should advocate for braille signs and whatever
>>> accomodations are needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jeff crouch
>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>>
>>> yeah, oh, this is my first time on this bord, and i love it. Wow i am
>>> more active on hear then i am on the nfbmi list. lol, i can't wait to
>>> get to know you wonderful people, hey if you have skype feel free to
>>> add me, my screen name is
>>> magic2127
>>>
>>> have a good day
>>> with love
>>> jeff crouch
>>>
>>> On 1/20/12, Jonathan Franks <franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree, you should keep talking to theschool. Also, if you get more
>>>> people
>>>> to talk to the school on the issue, the school will be more likely to
>>>> the
>>>> problem. My suggestion is to go out and talk to your friends and peers
>>>> and
>>>> let them know about the issue, advocating is a good way to solve a
>>>> problem
>>>> or come up with solutions. Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:25 PM, "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am first sorry for the trouble you are having to deal with. I had a
>>>>> friend in Nabraska who had the same issue with rooms throughout the
>>>>> school
>>>>> not being labeled and she talked to someone in her school and things
>>>>> got
>>>>> worked on
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and
>>>>>> they’re
>>>>>> the largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over
>>>>>> five
>>>>>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and
>>>>>> figured
>>>>>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s
>>>>>> hiring so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> the e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The
>>>>>> instructor
>>>>>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>>>>>> steps. Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the
>>>>>> thing around!
>>>>>> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>>>>>> lots of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom
>>>>>> lab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to
>>>>>> braille
>>>>>> tests!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>>>>>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not
>>>>>> ADA compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since
>>>>>> its not laid out well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>>>>>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley
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>>> kd8qiq
>>> jeff crouch
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