[nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 22:53:55 UTC 2012
RFBD?
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Date sent: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:29:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
IMO they should braille the names of employees including
professors. But
that is the least of my problems.
The school does not scan books; they do not have a bookshare
membership.
They do not belong to access text, a database for schools to
share books.
Gee.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:23 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
The offices shouldn't be a problem, and I agree there.
I just wish they'd put the room numbers, on the classrooms, in
Braille.
The names of the employees, on their office doors, at my college
aren't Brailled, either, and that's also a problem.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi,
Many professors use the same classroom, of course. But I was
refering to
the
office itself. Most professors get an office assigned to them;
some share
with one other instructor; only adjunct instructors do not have
their own
office. Full time faculty do. So putting the professor's name
would not be
that hard.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Our college is small, so different instructors may use the same
room,
so putting the professor's name on the door, isn't an option.
Instead of "Classroom," or "Office," it should have the room
number, in
Braille.
The number is there, in print, so why not in Braille?
Instead of "Classroom," it should say this.
"B104," "C105," etc.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Humberton,
Rehab is a joke; remember I'm a continuing ed student; so my
rehab
counselor
is concerned about getting me a job with a bachelors degree;
she won't
go
to meetings with the school; not sure that is a good idea. I
mean rehab
doesn't follow their own regulations of informed choice; that is
why they
fight with consumers about services.
Now, I do want to bring in an advocate; my state president of
nfb is busy
and travels a lot. So I might try a local advocate first. I
think I'll
ask
my local independent living center to help. The centers for
independent
living deal with all people with disabilities. Also I might
contact my
state
reps in richmond.
Chap peterson has been to nfb meetings here so he might be
willing to
help
even though he represents the next district over. Yes I will
definitely
contact my state officials.
As for braille signs. Um oh my, you got me started. While we
do have
braille
numbers, other important info is not in braille. The
professor's nname is
not brailled! I remember waiting over ten minutes for my
professor who
ran
late due to parking issues. Someone finally came along and read
me the
phone
number on the door! Then I called her. Then she showed up three
minutes
later and appoligized for being late. Well, I read her name
since I have
vision and confirmed I was indeed in the right place! But it
wasn't easy.
They could have at least put contrasting letters there for low
vision
students!
Same with other signs. Uh, gray letters on dark background
isn't good for
low vision people.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Humberto Avila
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:06 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Hello Ashley and all:
This is so awful. I think these experiences are and can always
occur
anywhere in this nation with blind students going to college.
I'm not
sure
if this could be possible but whenever someone has those sad and
bad
inaccessible experiences in college, they should:
1. talk to the DSS director or dean of students, and if not
working,
2. they should bring in the VR counselor with the DSS people at
the
college
and discuss these issues, and if that doesn't work,
3. bring in an advocate at the state or local level government
who can
explain the ADA and tell them how they are not providing the
information
and
services to a blind student(s) that should be provided by law,
and if
that
does not work,
4. bring in an advocate from the National Federation of the
Blind who
can
really chew their butt! Like maybe, the state or chapter
president and/or
maybe even more powerful, a national advocate. And if
applicable, if the
school is still not doing the job, he can sue the school on
behalf of the
NFB.
Just my idea on this. But, in the end, we must stop colleges
and
universities from not providing the services like accessible
textbooks
and
web sites and even well brailled classroom doors. This is
completely
nuts.
If we want change, we must take action now.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:53 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
That's sad!
My community college is awful at accomidating me, as well.
The Braille signs only say, "Classroom," and "Office," but it
won't
say who the instructor is.
The offices don't even have the employee's names on the door,
either.
It may, in Print, but not in Braille!
The classrooms, I can understand, because different instructors
may
use the same room.
They should, however, put the room number on the door, instead
of
"Classroom."
I've asked my DSO about it, but they won't do anything.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Just want to vent. My school doesn't seem very accomodating and
they're
the
largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over
five
campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
I'm just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and
figured
extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No
one's
hiring
so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any
texts. I am
still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member
can read
meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won't
give us
the
e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The
instructor
wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me
the
steps.
Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the
thing
around!
They tell us they don't have enough licenses; um how absurd.
They need
lots
of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a
classroom lab?
Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource
to get it
brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to
braille
tests!
Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff
and
counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet
its not
ADA
compliant. I don't know though. Its certainly confusing for a
blind
traveler. Sighted people get lost until they've been there a
lot since
its
not laid out well.
Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class
too.
Publishers need to get with the program!
Ashley
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