[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Sun Jan 22 23:09:35 UTC 2012

yeah dell is better than accer.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:04 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

I'm not using it yet, and haven't downloaded it.
I will, when I get my new Dell, (and trade this piece of trash,) (Acer,) in!
I'll E-mail you off list, with the Website.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> good idea; does nvda sound like jaws and where is the website?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> Ashley:
> Why not ask them to go to NVDA's Website, and download it on every 
> computer?
> They don't need licenses, with NVDA.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Amy,
>> I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad though.
>> They
>> can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
>> As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility instructor.
>> Also, my parents helped me out. But its just that the new student union
>> building with the bookstore, student café and more in it is laid out
>> weird;
>> its not a  particular shape; just a lot of open space. I'll do the best I
>> can with it though. The counseling center is in a corner so it shouldn't
>> be
>> too hard to find.
>>
>> I'm looking for readers as well. So looks like I'll have to make my own
>> accomodations. However, I still will plan to speak to whomever purchased
>> jaws; someone in the office of the vice president. I find it rediculous
>> they
>> don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally blind
>> student there.
>>
>> Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is learning
>> software and databases in the tutoring center and career center. If I use
>> my
>> own equipment, those programs are not on it.
>> I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the same 
>> story
>> about licenses. groan.
>>
>> Ashley
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amy Sabo
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>
>> Dear Ashley,
>> I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations and
>> problems
>> at a community college. I too had some of these same problems myself when
>> I
>> began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a community
>> college in Michigan. And, here's what I had to do in dealing with all of
>> these problems relating to yours.
>>
>> As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o and m
>> training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I didn't
>> receive
>> any at all. So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own by asking
>> many
>> questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance and, 
>> then
>>
>> I
>> knew where to go. I also had my parents or a sighted friend who was in 
>> one
>> of my classes show me around the campus. So, those are 2 ideas on getting
>> around your community college independtally. As for your it class I would
>> get a laptop. I had a voicenote when I was at my community college which
>> was
>> helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my classes so, a
>> laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also for
>> college.
>> And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have to rely
>> on
>> the dss office or the school's version or wait for their licenses of it
>> for
>> the keys. You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop around 
>> campus
>> well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put it in a
>> laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available for 
>> purchase
>> all major stores. Or, you can purchase a netbook which is smaller than a
>> laptop and, it works great with jfw. My sister has one as a matter of 
>> fact
>> it's her second one to be certain of that!
>>
>> As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have you
>> advised
>> the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email of your
>> concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web site.
>>
>> As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are using what
>> format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a
>> accessible
>> format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I began at 
>> my
>> community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my books on my
>> own
>> or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.
>>
>> Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to name a few.
>>
>> So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you. I hope
>> that
>> you can use them to your advantage. Take care and good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hugs,
>> amy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ashley Bramlett
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and they’re
>> the
>> largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over five
>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>
>> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and figured
>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s 
>> hiring
>> so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>
>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can read
>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give us
>> the
>> e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>
>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>> steps.
>> Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the thing
>> around!
>> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>> lots
>> of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom lab?
>>
>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get it
>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to braille
>> tests!
>>
>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not 
>> ADA
>> compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since 
>> its
>> not laid out well.
>>
>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>
>> Ashley
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