[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Mon Jan 23 13:05:13 UTC 2012

Gloria, this is an old one.
I got it on clearance, at Walmart, and it was several years old.
I'd rather have a Dell, because they say that it's more accessible
with screenreaders.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/23/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a aceer and it is a mini lab top and it works wonderfully. I have had
> it for about two years and have had no problems. I rather the mini lab top
> than the big heavy ones especially when you have other things to carry like
> books, folders etc...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
>
> I'm not using it yet, and haven't downloaded it.
> I will, when I get my new Dell, (and trade this piece of trash,) (Acer,) in!
> I'll E-mail you off list, with the Website.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> good idea; does nvda sound like jaws and where is the website?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>
>> Ashley:
>> Why not ask them to go to NVDA's Website, and download it on every
>> computer?
>> They don't need licenses, with NVDA.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Amy,
>>> I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad though.
>>> They
>>> can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
>>> As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility instructor.
>>> Also, my parents helped me out. But its just that the new student union
>>> building with the bookstore, student café and more in it is laid out
>>> weird;
>>> its not a  particular shape; just a lot of open space. I'll do the best I
>>> can with it though. The counseling center is in a corner so it shouldn't
>>> be
>>> too hard to find.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for readers as well. So looks like I'll have to make my own
>>> accomodations. However, I still will plan to speak to whomever purchased
>>> jaws; someone in the office of the vice president. I find it rediculous
>>> they
>>> don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally blind
>>> student there.
>>>
>>> Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is learning
>>> software and databases in the tutoring center and career center. If I use
>>> my
>>> own equipment, those programs are not on it.
>>> I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the same
>>> story
>>> about licenses. groan.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Amy Sabo
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>>
>>> Dear Ashley,
>>> I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations and
>>> problems
>>> at a community college. I too had some of these same problems myself when
>>> I
>>> began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a community
>>> college in Michigan. And, here's what I had to do in dealing with all of
>>> these problems relating to yours.
>>>
>>> As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o and m
>>> training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I didn't
>>> receive
>>> any at all. So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own by asking
>>> many
>>> questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance and,
>>> then
>>>
>>> I
>>> knew where to go. I also had my parents or a sighted friend who was in
>>> one
>>> of my classes show me around the campus. So, those are 2 ideas on getting
>>> around your community college independtally. As for your it class I would
>>> get a laptop. I had a voicenote when I was at my community college which
>>> was
>>> helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my classes so, a
>>> laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also for
>>> college.
>>> And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have to rely
>>> on
>>> the dss office or the school's version or wait for their licenses of it
>>> for
>>> the keys. You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop around
>>> campus
>>> well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put it in a
>>> laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available for
>>> purchase
>>> all major stores. Or, you can purchase a netbook which is smaller than a
>>> laptop and, it works great with jfw. My sister has one as a matter of
>>> fact
>>> it's her second one to be certain of that!
>>>
>>> As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have you
>>> advised
>>> the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email of your
>>> concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web site.
>>>
>>> As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are using what
>>> format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a
>>> accessible
>>> format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I began at
>>> my
>>> community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my books on my
>>> own
>>> or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.
>>>
>>> Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to name a few.
>>>
>>> So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you. I hope
>>> that
>>> you can use them to your advantage. Take care and good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hugs,
>>> amy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Ashley Bramlett
>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and they’re
>>> the
>>> largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over five
>>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>>
>>> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and figured
>>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s
>>> hiring
>>> so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>>
>>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
>>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can read
>>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give us
>>> the
>>> e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>>
>>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
>>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>>> steps.
>>> Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the thing
>>> around!
>>> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>>> lots
>>> of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom lab?
>>>
>>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get it
>>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to braille
>>> tests!
>>>
>>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not
>>> ADA
>>> compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
>>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since
>>> its
>>> not laid out well.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>>
>>> Ashley
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