[nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

Mon Jan 23 14:34:07 UTC 2012

I didn't know that thanks.

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Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
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You should be able to. You need to download the compatibility pack. When you

try to open a file with an x on the end of the extension, it should tell you

about this.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rania Ismail CMT" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:30 PM
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>I can't read documents in 2007 or newer with 2003.
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:34 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
> OOh, you can read 2010 documents if you have word 2003? I thought earlier
> versions could not read new versions. But new versions can  read old ones.
> I need 2010 for the advanced features of it. And that is what my class 
> uses.
>
> But, yeah I'll think about loading the old one on my laptop or vice versa.

> I
>
> could uninstall this new one on the desktop and put 2003 on it and have 
> 2010
>
> on the laptop.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:08 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
> As far as my experience, there is no advantage to using 2007 or 2010,
> especially if you find 2003. Files created using 2007 and 2010 can still 
> be
> read and edited using 2003. I will leave it up to you, but my 
> recommendation
> is to use Office 2003. There are ways to have both, but they are not easy 
> or
> convenient.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
>
> its my computer. Gee would be nice to have both versions
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
> No, you cannot. Is this your computer? If so, I would strongly recommend
> just uninstalling the current version of Office and installing Office 
> 2003.
> If it is not your computer, then maybe you could talk to someone who has 
> the
> authority to do it and explain that it would make things a million times
> easier.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
>
> Nicole,
> I think I have an old cd with office 2003 around. Do you know if I can 
> have
> them concurrently on the computer?
> It just would be nice to have both options; so if I cannot figure out 
> where
> something is in the ribbons, I can go back to the nice, simple menus of
> 2003.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
> Yes. The excerpt is from the "What's New in JAWS 12.0" section. I do not
> have Office 2007 or 2010, so I unfortunately cannot tell you how well it
> works, but it is probably better than nothing.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arielle Silverman" <arielle71 at gmail.com>
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>
>
> Does JAWS 12 have this?
> Arielle
>
> On 1/22/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Do you know how to use the quick settings in JAWS? Copied from the JAWS 
>> 13
>> help:
>>
>> Virtual Ribbon Menu
>> The Ribbon is a new style of menu available in many new applications 
>> being
>> released today. Ribbons first appeared in Office 2007 programs, but are
>> now
>> becoming more common in other applications tailored for the Windows 7
>> operating system. Ribbons create an accessibility challenge due to
>> inconsistent navigation between various groups and items. For example,
>> when
>> you enter the Lower Ribbon and press the ARROW keys to move between items
>> in
>> a group, you can skip items and unexpectedly move into another group.
>> Pressing TAB gives no indication that you have left one group and entered
>> another. Using first letter navigation to find items can be difficult and
>> frustrating. Finally, because of a group's layout, you do not know if you
>> should navigate up, down, left, or right to select an item.
>>
>> The new Virtual Ribbon Menu provides predictable navigation, lets you see
>> everything in the Ribbon, and offers consistency when navigating with
>> ARROW
>> keys. For example, the ARROW and TAB keys move focus from the Upper 
>> Ribbon
>> tabs to the Lower Ribbon groups. Once in a group, the ARROW, TAB, and
>> SHIFT+TAB keys move through all items in a group, move from one group to
>> the
>> next, and wrap to the beginning of the Ribbon. For submenus, SPACEBAR and
>> ENTER expand menus, and ESCAPE collapses menus. The Virtual Ribbon Menu 
>> is
>> off by default and can be switched on or off from within Settings Center
>> or
>> the JAWS Startup Wizard. When it is on, the Ribbon is navigated using a
>> traditional menu and submenu format familiar to most JAWS users.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>>
>>
>>> jaws 13
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:23 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>>>
>>> What version of JAWS are you using?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:08 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Seems like the office suite is less user friendly with the new ribbons.
>>>> Occasionally I find a button unlabeled.
>>>> Anyway, is access and Publisher accessible at all? I'd like to create
>>>> simple charts with publisher and maybe brochures if I volunteer for pr
>>>> somewhere.
>>>> Is excell still accessible?
>>>> I'll need the access database for work probably.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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