[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Mon Jan 23 17:15:21 UTC 2012

Hi,
Can anyone give me some simple steps on how to down load books from the 
learning ali cite? I have a couple of text books I need to get from there. 
Thanks
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating


> ell, I think for an expensive  piece of technology, its reasonable to 
> share. I use my desktop at home and then do not worry about battery life.
> Also, my dad might travel ocassionally and probably would prefer his own 
> computer rather than using the hotel computer lab.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Rania Ismail CMT
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:38 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> I also agree that you should have your own laptop this way you have one 
> that
> works. I have had family members install all kinds of stuff on the 
> computer
> that also had jaws on it. That really caused a problem because jaws didn't
> work correctly. If you have your own laptop you won't have to deal with
> other people installing a bunch of stuff on it.
> Rania,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Amy Sabo
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:21 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> Hello Ashley,
>
> As for getting a laptop I'm proud that you are going to get one. But, you
> shouldn't share it with your dad. You should have your own. Yes, they are
> expensive but, you can get a laptop for under $600 or so. If you can't
> afford one I'm sure like dvr or the lions club or some other agency can 
> help
> you financially to purchase one for you.
>
> I'm glad that you have had some travel skills and, that you are figuring
> things out on your own. As for the career center I know that the software
> isn't accessible but, try to work with them. And, that's why you will have
> the independence and your laptop for this. Take care and, I will talk to 
> you
> soon.
>
>
>
>
> Hugs,
> amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> Amy,
> I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad though. 
> They
>
> can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
> As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility instructor.
> Also, my parents helped me out. But its just that the new student union
> building with the bookstore, student café and more in it is laid out 
> weird;
> its not a  particular shape; just a lot of open space. I'll do the best I
> can with it though. The counseling center is in a corner so it shouldn't 
> be
> too hard to find.
>
> I'm looking for readers as well. So looks like I'll have to make my own
> accomodations. However, I still will plan to speak to whomever purchased
> jaws; someone in the office of the vice president. I find it rediculous 
> they
>
> don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally blind
> student there.
>
> Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is learning
> software and databases in the tutoring center and career center. If I use 
> my
>
> own equipment, those programs are not on it.
> I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the same story
> about licenses. groan.
>
> Ashley
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Amy Sabo
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> Dear Ashley,
> I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations and 
> problems
>
> at a community college. I too had some of these same problems myself when 
> I
> began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a community
> college in Michigan. And, here's what I had to do in dealing with all of
> these problems relating to yours.
>
> As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o and m
> training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I didn't 
> receive
>
> any at all. So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own by asking 
> many
>
> questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance and, then 
> I
>
> knew where to go. I also had my parents or a sighted friend who was in one
> of my classes show me around the campus. So, those are 2 ideas on getting
> around your community college independtally. As for your it class I would
> get a laptop. I had a voicenote when I was at my community college which 
> was
>
> helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my classes so, a
> laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also for 
> college.
> And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have to rely 
> on
> the dss office or the school's version or wait for their licenses of it 
> for
> the keys. You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop around campus
> well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put it in a
> laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available for purchase
> all major stores. Or, you can purchase a netbook which is smaller than a
> laptop and, it works great with jfw. My sister has one as a matter of fact
> it's her second one to be certain of that!
>
> As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have you 
> advised
> the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email of your
> concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web site.
>
> As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are using what
> format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a 
> accessible
> format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I began at my
> community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my books on my 
> own
> or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.
>
> Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to name a few.
>
> So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you. I hope 
> that
>
> you can use them to your advantage. Take care and good luck!
>
>
>
>
> Hugs,
> amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
>
> Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and they’re 
> the
> largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over five
> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>
> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and figured
> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s hiring
> so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>
> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can read
> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give us 
> the
> e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>
> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the 
> steps.
> Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the thing 
> around!
> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need 
> lots
> of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom lab?
>
> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get it
> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to braille
> tests!
>
> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not ADA
> compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since its
> not laid out well.
>
> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
> Publishers need to get with the program!
>
> Ashley
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