[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Thu Jul 12 20:47:47 UTC 2012

Sophie,

Thanks for saying this.  I kind of started to feel as though I was alone in
the idea that watching people make out is totally not on my list of
must-tries.

Also, I am thinking that, while there are things that children should learn
to be prepared to maintain their health, it doesn't have to become a
"sexual" issue.  Technically, this is biology.  Sooo...Why isn't it
incorporated into a biology class, where it would be treated as a scientific
issue rather than a risqué thing that all teens can't wait to get into?

Best,

Amber

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Sophie Trist
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:39 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Brandon, it's not that we're not tought how to be happy, give pleasure, and
all that other stuff. It's just that... well, no offense, but most of that
stuff you said was a little gross. I mean, I reeeeeeeeally don't need to
know if there's a couple making out in front of me on the bus. I can get
descriptions of that stuff from books. And those are plenty descriptive
enough for me, thanks. Of course, this is just my humble opinion.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:46:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Hello,
Sighted people are exposed to sex all the time, haven't you heard of playboy
or penthouse? Also, what about those people making out on the bus? Or the
gay couple walking down the sidewalk in skirts and bikini? All that we miss
because we're blind.
Books are grate, but you can only learn so much from a manual. 
Sighted kids
get pictures, we should get to feel. Also, how is a blind person supposed to
know they have an STD if they have never felt one? How do they know it's not
just a cut or dehydration?
Sighted people are given extensive viewings of the peaness and vagina in
class or in pictures, why can't blind people get the same?
Frankly I believe that the art of giving pleasure has become such a
suppressed skill that people have even resorted to substance abuse to obtain
pleasure. Our bodies were meant to give us pleasure, why aren't we taught to
utilize these pleasure factories? What's the meaning of life? To love and be
happy! Why aren't we taught to be happy, to give pleasure, to love our
selves in school?
It's a fundamental wrong that I find is a crime against the words human
beings, but that's kind of a different issue.
But if this curriculum is any bit good, teachers will adopt it instead of
the droll thing they have now.

btw what about feeling a condom, diaphragm or dental dam? How is a blind
person supposed to know what one looks like if they haven't felt one or
tried it on? Also, how does a blind person shop for contraception's?
Me: "Next on my list is condoms." Walgreens guy: "OK, what brand do you
want? Durex, Trojan, Crown, Kimono..." Me: "Uh, what's your favorite?"
Walgreens guy: "Most people get Trojan, what size do you want? 
We've got
small, medium, large and extra large. We've also got narrow and wide. Here
are some flavors as well..."

That's just a wall greens guy who is comfortable, what if it's one of the
really shy ladies who doesn't speak English? Sighted people can be
unobtrusive and just buy the condom or diaphragm along with their lube where
as a blind person has to know what questions to ask and know what brands to
get. I learned what questions to ask when shopping by watching my parents,
but I've never seen my parents buy condoms.
It's a serious issue and this program will help address those problems. And
what about masturbation? I've rarely read a book where masturbation is
talked about and I've read a lot of books! How does a guy masturbate without
making a mess?
Sex Ed is not just about a sperm and an egg get together to form a baby,
that's more science.
Sex Ed is about sex and it's an issue that blind people fall way short in
when it comes to being educated along with their fellow students.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Herrin, Amber R.
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:40 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Dear Joshua,

I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about sex,
before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind of...unnecessary, I guess?
Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone believes you
should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being blind doesn't
prevent us from finding out about it the same way sighted people
do-experiment (isn't that what most people do anyway?) or read books written
on the topic (how confusing can text be?)

Amber R. Herrin
Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
Mobile: (513) 593-5855
E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
"It doesn't matter what you've heard
Impossible is not a word
It's just a reason
For someone not to try

Everybody's scared to death
When they decide to take that step
Out on the water
It'll be alright

Life is so much more
Than what your eyes are seeing
You will find your way
If you keep believing"
-Kutless "What Faith Can Do"

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the new proposed
curriculum, that they're wanting.
I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know, what's being
shown, in those slides?
Good grief!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:

I have been asked to circulate the following:

 Dave

Dear NFB Member,
The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to help us
with a current project.

We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us write a
curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the area of sex
education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students with low vision and
blindness that reflect current education standards.  Young people,
educators, and professionals have all indicated that there is a desperate
need for such a curriculum.
We want your voice to impact our work!
Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
below:
<https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
rveym
onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey

<https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht
tps:/
/www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey

Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan

Thank you,
Mika Baugh
National Federation of the Blind
200 East Wells Street
      at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230
P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org
W: <http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org

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