[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Fri Jul 13 04:12:19 UTC 2012


I agree.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/12/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
> The biology class at my high school does a unit on the human
> reproductive system and how it works. Maybe if more biology
> classes went into that, it could improve.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amber R. Herrin" <herrinar at muohio.edu
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> Sophie,
>
> Thanks for saying this.  I kind of started to feel as though I
> was alone in
> the idea that watching people make out is totally not on my list
> of
> must-tries.
>
> Also, I am thinking that, while there are things that children
> should learn
> to be prepared to maintain their health, it doesn't have to
> become a
> "sexual" issue.  Technically, this is biology.  Sooo...Why isn't
> it
> incorporated into a biology class, where it would be treated as a
> scientific
> issue rather than a risqué thing that all teens can't wait to get
> into?
>
> Best,
>
> Amber
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sophie Trist
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:39 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> Brandon, it's not that we're not tought how to be happy, give
> pleasure, and
> all that other stuff. It's just that... well, no offense, but
> most of that
> stuff you said was a little gross. I mean, I reeeeeeeeally don't
> need to
> know if there's a couple making out in front of me on the bus. I
> can get
> descriptions of that stuff from books. And those are plenty
> descriptive
> enough for me, thanks. Of course, this is just my humble opinion.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:46:05 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> Hello,
> Sighted people are exposed to sex all the time, haven't you heard
> of playboy
> or penthouse? Also, what about those people making out on the
> bus? Or the
> gay couple walking down the sidewalk in skirts and bikini? All
> that we miss
> because we're blind.
> Books are grate, but you can only learn so much from a manual.
> Sighted kids
> get pictures, we should get to feel. Also, how is a blind person
> supposed to
> know they have an STD if they have never felt one? How do they
> know it's not
> just a cut or dehydration?
> Sighted people are given extensive viewings of the peaness and
> vagina in
> class or in pictures, why can't blind people get the same?
> Frankly I believe that the art of giving pleasure has become such
> a
> suppressed skill that people have even resorted to substance
> abuse to obtain
> pleasure. Our bodies were meant to give us pleasure, why aren't
> we taught to
> utilize these pleasure factories? What's the meaning of life? To
> love and be
> happy! Why aren't we taught to be happy, to give pleasure, to
> love our
> selves in school?
> It's a fundamental wrong that I find is a crime against the words
> human
> beings, but that's kind of a different issue.
> But if this curriculum is any bit good, teachers will adopt it
> instead of
> the droll thing they have now.
>
> btw what about feeling a condom, diaphragm or dental dam? How is
> a blind
> person supposed to know what one looks like if they haven't felt
> one or
> tried it on? Also, how does a blind person shop for
> contraception's?
> Me: "Next on my list is condoms." Walgreens guy: "OK, what brand
> do you
> want? Durex, Trojan, Crown, Kimono..." Me: "Uh, what's your
> favorite?"
> Walgreens guy: "Most people get Trojan, what size do you want?
> We've got
> small, medium, large and extra large. We've also got narrow and
> wide. Here
> are some flavors as well..."
>
> That's just a wall greens guy who is comfortable, what if it's
> one of the
> really shy ladies who doesn't speak English? Sighted people can
> be
> unobtrusive and just buy the condom or diaphragm along with their
> lube where
> as a blind person has to know what questions to ask and know what
> brands to
> get. I learned what questions to ask when shopping by watching my
> parents,
> but I've never seen my parents buy condoms.
> It's a serious issue and this program will help address those
> problems. And
> what about masturbation? I've rarely read a book where
> masturbation is
> talked about and I've read a lot of books! How does a guy
> masturbate without
> making a mess?
> Sex Ed is not just about a sperm and an egg get together to form
> a baby,
> that's more science.
> Sex Ed is about sex and it's an issue that blind people fall way
> short in
> when it comes to being educated along with their fellow students.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:40 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> Dear Joshua,
>
> I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about
> sex,
> before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind of...unnecessary,
> I guess?
> Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone
> believes you
> should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being blind
> doesn't
> prevent us from finding out about it the same way sighted people
> do-experiment (isn't that what most people do anyway?) or read
> books written
> on the topic (how confusing can text be?)
>
> Amber R. Herrin
> Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
> Impossible is not a word
> It's just a reason
> For someone not to try
>
> Everybody's scared to death
> When they decide to take that step
> Out on the water
> It'll be alright
>
> Life is so much more
> Than what your eyes are seeing
> You will find your way
> If you keep believing"
> -Kutless "What Faith Can Do"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the
> new proposed
> curriculum, that they're wanting.
> I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know,
> what's being
> shown, in those slides?
> Good grief!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>
> I have been asked to circulate the following:
>
>
>  Dave
>
>
>
>
> Dear NFB Member,
> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
> help us
> with a current project.
>
> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help
> us write a
> curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the area
> of sex
> education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students with low
> vision and
> blindness that reflect current education standards.  Young
> people,
> educators, and professionals have all indicated that there is a
> desperate
> need for such a curriculum.
> We want your voice to impact our work!
> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
> below:
> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
> rveym
> onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>
> <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht
> tps:/
> /www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Mika Baugh
> National Federation of the Blind
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> P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
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