[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Fri Jul 13 08:57:01 UTC 2012

Brandon, that's enough!  Please! I'm no prude, but some discussions are best had off forum. And for goodness sake, most blind folks do fine with appropriately presented information such as a model or tactile graphic. Sex ed is presented to sighted students in a much less graphic manner than you imagine; and it's not practical or appropriate to our culture to present live models in class for anyone. And frankly, it's worth repeating that sighted people vary in their knowledge as we do, so I think it unwise to presume naievte on our part on account of blindness. Ashley, Planned Parenthood, your school's LGBT group, the internet, NLS/BookShare, and your local college's sexual awareness center are all great places to learn about sex including contraception if your knowledge seems insufficient. I don't mind discussion about mature relationships as long as it doesn't become inappropriate, and our discussion has overstepped what most would consider appropriate for a public forum.

Respectfully,
Jedi

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On 13/07/2012, at 12:32 AM, "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> My problem with the current mottles are that they are gross.
> They are hard and as synthetic as possible. The way they are presented make one never want to see a peaness or vagina. They may work for putting in a condom or a diaphragm, but past that point they just bring disgust to their users.
> Any mottles should be at least somewhat realistic, because otherwise it will scare the blind person from having anything to do with sex.
> That sweetish class sounds very awesome, perhaps if the teacher stripped down, the students would treat sex ed as a cereous topic. I don't think anyone should be embarrassed about sex or sexual matters and I think children should be given the truth. They have a peaness and a vagina and when they are old enough to ask about what it is, they are almost old enough to deal with the issues that come with their body demanding babies.
> 
> BTW Ashley, I know how hard it is to get your hands on a condom and I know how hard it is to get your hands on a new born baby.
> A condom looks like a long, thin, rubber sleeve with a big ring at the base. There's a little pouch on the end that's smaller than the main part. When a condom is in a package It's a little 1.5-2 inch square package that feels like there is a ring in it. When the condom is taken out of the package, it's like a ring with a rubber Curtin in the middle. You can find the side that is supposed to fit over the peaness by either blowing on it or feeling to see where that little pouch or bubble is poking out. The side that is poking out is the side that stays on the outside.
> They kind of feel like a finger of a latex glove.
> WARNING! If your boyfriend wants to be cool and either: wear a flavored condom, glow in the dark condom, extra large condom or any condom that's not considered plane, don't do penetration. Most of those fancy condoms are meant for oral sex and generally are weaker than the plane condoms. A diaphragm is kind of the same idea, except it is inserted into the vagina and can often stay there for a couple hours where as a condom has to be used right away.
> Also note, condoms aren't meant to be used more than once, so be aware of that when you go in for the second time. They are thin and the guy doesn't always notice that the condom has broken.
> 
> A baby's umbilical chord sticks out of their belly button. (You ever wonder what that strange indentation is fore?) It is a feeding tube that goes right into the baby's stomach. One end is attached to the mom somewhere in the uterus and the other comes out of the babies bellybutton. The chord is cut in order to remove the baby from a physical attachment to the mother.
> Beyond that, take a biology class, it is a lot more detailed, but that is the idea. You could also Google it.
> Thanks,
> 
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message----- From: Sophie Trist
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:16 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> 
> Ashley, I think it depends on the teacher you have for sex ed. My
> teacher was super duper good about explaining everything. Plus,
> we had notes to read that described it very well.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:21:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> 
> Sophie,
> I, too, took a sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still lack
> knowledge
> usually. I don't think this replaces school education, it
> supplements it.
> Having nonvisual access such as a description, diagrams, or model
> would
> further aide in  our understanding of such a matter.
> Guys you may want to skip the next paragraph.
> 
> For instance, My brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen
> or been
> explained what the birth process is, I don't have a clue what its
> about.
> What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid and what is its
> role in
> supporting the fetus? I still don't understand how a baby gets
> nurishment as
> its in the mother. I know from the mother's food, but just how I
> don't
> understand.
> They told me Steve, my brother, cut the umbilical cord.
> But where is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me she
> started labour
> in the evening and went to the hospital; she did not have the
> baby til next
> afternoon! I asked her how she managed it; wasn't she tired? She
> informed me
> she slept a little during the night. She told me the baby's head
> came out
> first which was normal. I did not know this. I learned from her
> as I held my
> nephew that the head came out first and then the trunk and limbs.
> I learned
> that babies cried after they came out of the womb. I learned that
> infants
> needed to get milk very often. I am hoping Kasey will tell me
> more about her
> pregnancy and the beginnings of it, AKA, the sex part sometime.
> 
> I think I'll take that survey that started this.
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sophie Trist
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:37 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> 
> Dave, I'm a little confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I
> took a sex ed class in seventh grade. I found it to be very
> informative despite my blindness. I don't understand why we need
> a special curriculum for sex ed.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:52:03 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> 
> 
> I have been asked to circulate the following:
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear NFB Member,
> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
> help us with a current project.
> 
> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help
> us
> write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in
> the
> area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for
> students
> with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
> standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
> indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
> We want your voice to impact our work!
> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
> below:
> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
> rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht
> tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> 
> 
> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Mika Baugh
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street
>     at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, MD 21230
> P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
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