[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Carly Mihalakis carlymih at comcast.net
Mon Jul 16 18:16:46 UTC 2012


Good afternoon, David,

At least in my experience, a course in sex ed did find me via ways in 
which sex is supposed to be conveyed, on a purely, physical plane in 
which no particular adaptations or modifications were necessary. I 
mean, how else do people expect to learn these concepts, honestly? 
And Those weird, so-called anatomically correct googoo dolls they 
gave me in 6th  grade were corny, beyond belief in fact.  Besides, I 
know I only fully grasp concepts after seeing how it applies to my 
own experience.
In fact one thing I did learn from seeing the female googoo doll was 
that I don't need a fur burger. 'taught me about shaving. the20 AM 
7/16/2012, you wrote:
>I do not think we can or should treat sex education different from any
>other type of education. If a person needs adaptations so that they can
>understand the concepts and any required assesmsnfs then that needs to take
>place in an qppeopraite way.
>
>David
>
>On Monday, July 16, 2012, Wasif, Zunaira <Zunaira.Wasif at dbs.fldoe.org>
>wrote:
> > How is sex ed different than math or science or any thing else?  Most
> > subjects have a visual component.  Does that mean  that we need a
> > special curriculum for every thing?  You learn about sex in the same way
> > you learn about any other social interaction.  Like some other people on
> > the list, I don't understand why this can't be discussed openly on the
> > list.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:07 PM
> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I don't see why this discussion should be banned from the list. This is
> > just my opinion, and I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that
> > there is a lot of hesitation and outright disgust that's being talked
> > about here. And, let's be honest, how are we ever going to clear up
> > people's misconceptions if we don't talk about them?
> > I think it's probably easier for people to discuss these matters on a
> > list where they can be anonymous. Given the ages of some of the people
> > here, I can see why there would be some embarrassment involved if some
> > of you don't know what certain things are. I think it's probably
> > beneficial at this point to try and help each other out. It's a little
> > late for us to have better sex ed, so why not try to stop all this
> > nervous tittering about terminology? The terms Brandon used weren't
> > offensive. They were the anatomically correct terms. Plus, while I hink
> > the examples he uses are slightly exaggerated, that's not to say they
> > can never happen, and I think if we're going to have a discussion of
> > this nature, we need to be up front about it. We're all adults here, or
> > at least the age of consent.
> > I'm not talking about some of the religious convictions that certain
> > members have expressed. Those are personal, and if that's how you feel,
> > there's nothing wrong with that. But please take a step outside those
> > for a moment and think of how this discussion benefits others who are
> > reading. I'll bet there are some people who are sitting here reading
> > this, and have questions and concerns they would like to express, but
> > feel they can't for whatever reason. I implore you all not to ruin it
> > for those who really could use this information.
> >
> > On 7/12/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> Don't take this the wrong way, but if any of you have anatomy
> >> questions, you can email me offlist at arielle71 at gmail.com Seriously,
> >> I did learn a lot about this stuff in my biology classes.
> >> Best,
> >> Arielle
> >>
> >> On 7/12/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Ashley,
> >>> I believe you didn't know about any of these things because you
> >>> didn't inform yourself, not because you are blind...
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Ashley Bramlett
> >>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sophie,
> >>>> I, too, took a sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still lack
> >>>> knowledge usually. I don't think this replaces school education, it
> >>>> supplements it.
> >>>> Having nonvisual access such as a description, diagrams, or model
> >>>> would further aide in  our understanding of such a matter.
> >>>> Guys you may want to skip the next paragraph.
> >>>>
> >>>> For instance, My brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen or
> >>>> been explained what the birth process is, I don't have a clue what
> > its about.
> >>>> What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid and what is its role
> >>>> in supporting the fetus? I still don't understand how a baby gets
> >>>> nurishment as its in the mother. I know from the mother's food, but
> >>>> just how I don't understand.
> >>>> They told me Steve, my brother, cut the umbilical cord.
> >>>> But where is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me she started
> >>>> labour in the evening and went to the hospital; she did not have the
> >
> >>>> baby til next afternoon! I asked her how she managed it; wasn't she
> >>>> tired? She informed me she slept a little during the night. She told
> >
> >>>> me the baby's head came out first which was normal. I did not know
> >>>> this. I learned from her as I held my nephew that the head came out
> >>>> first and then the trunk and limbs. I learned that babies cried
> >>>> after they came out of the womb.
> >>>> I
> >>>> learned that infants needed to get milk very often. I am hoping
> >>>> Kasey will tell me more about her pregnancy and the beginnings of
> >>>> it, AKA, the sex part sometime.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think I'll take that survey that started this.
> >>>> Ashley
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sophie Trist
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:37 PM
> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave, I'm a little confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I took
> >>>> a sex ed class in seventh grade. I found it to be very informative
> >>>> despite my blindness. I don't understand why we need a special
> >>>> curriculum for sex ed.
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
> >>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:52:03 -0500
> >>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been asked to circulate the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear NFB Member,
> >>>> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
> >>>> help us with a current project.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us
> >>>> write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the
> >
> >>>> area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students
> >>>> with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
> >>>> standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
> >>>> indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
> >>>> We want your voice to impact our work!
> >>>> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
> >>>> below:
> >>>> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
> >>>> rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> >>>> 
> <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht>>> 
>  > tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
> >>>> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> Mika Baugh
> >>>> National Federation of the Blind
> >>>> 200 East Wells Street
> >>>>     at Jernigan Place
> >>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
> >>>> P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
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