[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Wed Jul 18 04:39:36 UTC 2012

Go to our Website, and look around, and listen to what Dr Tenbroek's
philosophy was, and you'll know our philosophy.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/17/12, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com> wrote:
> I'm curious what exactly is the nfb philosophy. Usually the people that
> push it are unable to answer my question, which is sad. There's lots of
> people that fome at the mouth and claim to embrace it, but I've not
> gotten an answer yet.
> On 7/17/2012 10:27 PM, Carly Mihalakis wrote:
>> So, if you dig the NFB way, why not simply go to an NFB center for
>> training? I mean, why would we want a same philosophy to be
>> everywhere? Don't we claim to embrace diversity?
>> CarAt 09:08 PM 7/17/2012, you wrote:
>>> I agree.
>>> These senters should also have the NFB philosophy.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > As I see it, the job training at this center is probably its only
>>> > strong point. You have to remember, though, that most people are going
>>> > to live on campus unless they have family or friends in Arkansas that
>>> > they can stay with, so they can commute every day. If not, what are
>>> > they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate it in 6 months? I
>>> > don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible leases aren't that
>>> > easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the center is as badly
>>> > run as it is. I considered going there myself for the computer
>>> > networking certification, but changed my mind after hearing stories
>>> > very similar to the opinions that have been expressed here. As I said,
>>> > it's definitely a shame that this is the only center that has such a
>>> > good track record with placing the blind in profitable employment.
>>> > Other centers should exist for this purpose as well. For one place to
>>> > carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering how high the
>>> > unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how much farther along we
>>> > would get if even several states had a center of this nature.
>>> >
>>> > On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >> Anmol,
>>> >> excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS program. Also, the entrance
>>> >> requirements were on the website and I hope they still are.
>>> >> You have to have good technology skills as well as decent educational
>>> >> skills
>>> >> to get in. Since you will work for the government, they require
>>> you to be
>>> >> a
>>> >> US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and be willing to relocate.
>>> They
>>> >> also
>>> >> find you a job after your training. I was at a job fair and know
>>> who I
>>> >> ran
>>> >> into?
>>> >> An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job into that agency,
>>> going to
>>> >> WSB
>>> >> was a good idea. He said they get students from there all the time
>>> and
>>> >> that
>>> >> the next class containing 30 students was starting soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh the pros and cons.
>>> Also, I
>>> >> can definitely see why rehab would send clients there; they
>>> gaurantee a
>>> >> job
>>> >> afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing because more
>>> successful case
>>> >> closures mean they keep the funding they have.
>>> >> Ashley
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Anmol Bhatia
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
>>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>> >>
>>> >> Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not belong to any
>>> >> organization.
>>> >> They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had a table at the
>>> exhabit
>>> >> hall
>>> >> at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of WSB to the extend
>>> that some
>>> >> on
>>> >> this list might think I am, however, I do not like reading some of
>>> the
>>> >> comments I read on here from people who do not necessarly know all
>>> the
>>> >> facts.
>>> >> The things Amber has mentioned are valid and credible because she is
>>> >> there
>>> >> now. If I were considering attending WSB, I would seriously take into
>>> >> consideration the things she mentioned. However, WSB does have an
>>> >> employment
>>> >> track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to send clients to a
>>> training
>>> >> center which can lead to employment like the WSB rather than an
>>> >> independent
>>> >> living training center like the NFB training centers that do a
>>> good job
>>> >> in
>>> >> providing independent living training, but do not lead to
>>> employment. I
>>> >> personally understand the value of how independent living training is
>>> >> important in being successful in employment and most rehab
>>> counselors do
>>> >> as
>>> >> well, but we have to justify how we are spending the tax payer
>>> money to
>>> >> largely ignorent sighted society who do not necessarly see the
>>> value of
>>> >> independent training for a blind person.
>>> >> To answer the question, the IRS is a promising job that pays the
>>> starting
>>> >> salarry of $45,000 I think with growth opportunity. So you have to
>>> decide
>>> >> if
>>> >> you want to put up with some of the things mentioned: bad food,
>>> unclean
>>> >> building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good job after that.
>>> >> Anmol
>>> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
>>> Perhaps
>>> >> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>> >> breeze
>>> >> among flowers.
>>> >> Hellen Keller
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
>>> >>> I suspect that certain students or
>>> >>> staff at WSB are ACB members and
>>> >>> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself doesn't have a
>>> >>> particular
>>> >>> organizational position.
>>> >>> Arielle
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock
>>> >>> chapter of the NFB
>>> >>> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if
>>> >>> according to you they try so
>>> >>> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they
>>> >>> allow the NFB meet in
>>> >>> > their building and the local chapter of the ACB does
>>> >>> not meet there?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Anmol
>>> >>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>>> >>> make me sad. Perhaps
>>> >>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>>> >>> vague, like a breeze
>>> >>> > among flowers.
>>> >>> > Hellen Keller
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester
>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>>> >>> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> >>> list"
>>> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
>>> >>> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
>>> >>> >> graduating from college.
>>> >>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >     Let' sleet her decide if she
>>> >>> >> would benefit from a complete training
>>> >>> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
>>> >>> >> employment-related assistance and
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > offer training in several specific areas. Have
>>> >>> you been
>>> >>> >> to an NFB center
>>> >>> >> > yourself?
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Peter Donahue
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >>> >> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
>>> >>> mailing
>>> >>> >> list"
>>> >>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> >>> Employment
>>> >>> >> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
>>> >>> >> > She needs job training.
>>> >>> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
>>> >>> >> > Thanks, Joshua
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >> >> Good morning everyone,
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>     LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
>>> >>> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
>>> >>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >> >> checkered history concerning its treatment
>>> >>> of the
>>> >>> >> blind persons it claims
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >> >> serve. The conditions you describe have
>>> >>> existed
>>> >>> >> there for many years. At
>>> >>> >> >> one
>>> >>> >> >> time it was accredited by the National
>>> >>> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
>>> >>> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
>>> >>> Handicapped (NAC.)
>>> >>> >> Its former blind
>>> >>> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had
>>> >>> a
>>> >>> >> reputation for condoning
>>> >>> >> >> practices that often led to blind persons
>>> >>> being
>>> >>> >> abused, mistreated, and
>>> >>> >> >> in
>>> >>> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid
>>> >>> less
>>> >>> >> than the Federal minimum
>>> >>> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of
>>> >>> Accreditation"
>>> >>> >> failed to address
>>> >>> >> >> these
>>> >>> >> >> issues. For example the standards called
>>> >>> for the
>>> >>> >> agency's grounds to be
>>> >>> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
>>> >>> sheltered
>>> >>> >> workshops they accredited to
>>> >>> >> >> pay
>>> >>> >> >> all employees including the blind
>>> >>> employees the
>>> >>> >> Federal minimum wage.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>     In 1985 NAC held its annual
>>> >>> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
>>> >>> >> >> there
>>> >>> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas
>>> >>> Enterprises
>>> >>> >> for the Blind and the
>>> >>> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were
>>> >>> picketed by the
>>> >>> >> NFB. While at AEB a
>>> >>> >> >> number of AEB clients told us that there
>>> >>> were
>>> >>> >> problems and that it needed
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I
>>> >>> were on
>>> >>> >> that picket line.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>     Judging from what I've read
>>> >>> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
>>> >>> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at
>>> >>> agencies such
>>> >>> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
>>> >>> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB
>>> >>> training
>>> >>> >> center. These centers
>>> >>> >> >> are
>>> >>> >> >> a big cut above anything else out there.
>>> >>> All the
>>> >>> >> best.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Peter Donahue
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> >>> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
>>> >>> Students mailing
>>> >>> >> list"
>>> >>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
>>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> >>> Employment
>>> >>> >> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Amber,
>>> >>> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first
>>> >>> that I
>>> >>> >> commend your efforts in
>>> >>> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I
>>> >>> think you did
>>> >>> >> a good job for
>>> >>> >> >> someone
>>> >>> >> >> who did not have a good experience.  I've
>>> >>> also
>>> >>> >> heard bad rumors about it.
>>> >>> >> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real
>>> >>> surprised
>>> >>> >> that
>>> >>> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >> clients it does.
>>> >>> >> >> Which program were you in? Independent
>>> >>> living? or a
>>> >>> >> job program?
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> About rules, personally signing in and out
>>> >>> doesn't
>>> >>> >> bother me. You are in
>>> >>> >> >> a
>>> >>> >> >> training setting and with this litigious
>>> >>> society,
>>> >>> >> they need to account
>>> >>> >> >> for
>>> >>> >> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency?
>>> >>> They need
>>> >>> >> to know where
>>> >>> >> >> everyone
>>> >>> >> >> is. People go missing everyday and are
>>> >>> never found.
>>> >>> >> Youwouldn't want your
>>> >>> >> >> parents or friends or family calling and
>>> >>> them
>>> >>> >> saying, oh, we do not know
>>> >>> >> >> where your son is;  he may be on campus
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> >> not.
>>> >>> >> >> The other thing about the no microwave or
>>> >>> fridge
>>> >>> >> would bother me. As a
>>> >>> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own
>>> >>> fridge in
>>> >>> >> my room.
>>> >>> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold
>>> >>> drink or
>>> >>> >> cold snack when I wanted
>>> >>> >> >> to.
>>> >>> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30,
>>> >>> this was
>>> >>> >> definitely nice.
>>> >>> >> >> That seems early to me given the fact that
>>> >>> I eat
>>> >>> >> late at home; between 7
>>> >>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >> >> 8pm.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good
>>> >>> personal
>>> >>> >> decision to leave. So I wish
>>> >>> >> >> you luck in your next decision to find
>>> >>> decent
>>> >>> >> training or whatever you
>>> >>> >> >> need.
>>> >>> >> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm
>>> >>> not sure
>>> >>> >> if you are a current
>>> >>> >> >> college student or recent grad.
>>> >>> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you
>>> >>> can as
>>> >>> >> it opens up more doors
>>> >>> >> >> to
>>> >>> >> >> you.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Ashley
>>> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
>>> >>> >> >> To: 'National Association of Blind
>>> >>> Students mailing
>>> >>> >> list'
>>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> >>> Employment
>>> >>> >> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Ian,
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to
>>> >>> leave on
>>> >>> >> Friday.  Here is what
>>> >>> >> >> I
>>> >>> >> >> have experienced.  I will do my best to
>>> >>> give
>>> >>> >> only facts and not color
>>> >>> >> >> those
>>> >>> >> >> facts with my opinion, though before I
>>> >>> begin, I
>>> >>> >> will clearly state that
>>> >>> >> >> if
>>> >>> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as to
>>> >>> whether or not
>>> >>> >> one should attend this
>>> >>> >> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would
>>> >>> have to
>>> >>> >> say no.  But I am not
>>> >>> >> >> you
>>> >>> >> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> >> experienced here has
>>> >>> >> >> colored
>>> >>> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> The facts:
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> *Several students (including myself) have
>>> >>> had
>>> >>> >> valuables go missing.
>>> >>> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and
>>> >>> safety
>>> >>> >> codes. (just one
>>> >>> >> >> example-there are many-one evening we had
>>> >>> chicken
>>> >>> >> wings, and though the
>>> >>> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> >> not mention this, except
>>> >>> >> >> this
>>> >>> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
>>> >>> >> >> *The showers have light bulbs (not
>>> >>> protected
>>> >>> >> by any kind of panels)
>>> >>> >> >> inside
>>> >>> >> >> the actual stall where water could be
>>> >>> accidentally
>>> >>> >> splashed.  I brought
>>> >>> >> >> this
>>> >>> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over
>>> >>> mine, but
>>> >>> >> mine is not the only
>>> >>> >> >> one
>>> >>> >> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed
>>> >>> by other
>>> >>> >> clients.)
>>> >>> >> >> *Despite several complaints from many
>>> >>> clients, the
>>> >>> >> building is full of
>>> >>> >> >> bugs.
>>> >>> >> >> They say that someone comes regularly to
>>> >>> spray, but
>>> >>> >> bugs were found even
>>> >>> >> >> in
>>> >>> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean person.
>>> >>> (read as, do
>>> >>> >> not leave food in
>>> >>> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food
>>> >>> still on
>>> >>> >> them etc.)
>>> >>> >> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
>>> >>> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
>>> >>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or
>>> >>> nothing at
>>> >>> >> all except cafeteria
>>> >>> >> >> food.  There are microwaves that
>>> >>> physically
>>> >>> >> exist, but they do not work
>>> >>> >> >> very
>>> >>> >> >> well.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Now I can say that there are other things
>>> >>> I could
>>> >>> >> talk about, but they
>>> >>> >> >> probably come down to personal preference
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> >> really are just normal
>>> >>> >> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on
>>> >>> any
>>> >>> >> college dorm, except they
>>> >>> >> >> are
>>> >>> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact that
>>> >>> everything is
>>> >>> >> scaled down hugely.
>>> >>> >> >> So
>>> >>> >> >> while, for example, on most college
>>> >>> campuses, you
>>> >>> >> could go to a dining
>>> >>> >> >> hall
>>> >>> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not
>>> >>> come to
>>> >>> >> meals at the times
>>> >>> >> >> specified, you don't eat meals. I am
>>> >>> sure
>>> >>> >> that anyone can argue that
>>> >>> >> >> when
>>> >>> >> >> in school, you have to work with a
>>> >>> particular
>>> >>> >> schedule, and while this is
>>> >>> >> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with
>>> >>> the fact
>>> >>> >> that we can't even
>>> >>> >> >> have
>>> >>> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms
>>> >>> so that we
>>> >>> >> may maintain the
>>> >>> >> >> schedules that are most comfortable for
>>> >>> us.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing
>>> >>> and may
>>> >>> >> not affect anyone, but
>>> >>> >> >> I
>>> >>> >> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did
>>> >>> not, I
>>> >>> >> would be doing a great
>>> >>> >> >> disservice to anyone considering attending
>>> >>> this
>>> >>> >> center.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by
>>> >>> an
>>> >>> >> authority figure.  He was
>>> >>> >> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
>>> >>> >> approaching the baggage claim
>>> >>> >> >> with
>>> >>> >> >> a female passenger from my flight.  This
>>> >>> >> authority figure approached me
>>> >>> >> >> without announcing himself, put his arm
>>> >>> around my
>>> >>> >> waist, hugged me to
>>> >>> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and
>>> >>> told the
>>> >>> >> female passenger who
>>> >>> >> >> had
>>> >>> >> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it
>>> >>> under
>>> >>> >> control from there, but
>>> >>> >> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down at
>>> >>> me
>>> >>> >> and said, "How was your trip,
>>> >>> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so
>>> >>> glad
>>> >>> >> you're home!"
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> This man did not announce himself to me in
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >> beginning, should have
>>> >>> >> >> been
>>> >>> >> >> treating me professionally, is old enough
>>> >>> to be my
>>> >>> >> father, and possibly
>>> >>> >> >> even
>>> >>> >> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with
>>> >>> me
>>> >>> >> minimally since my arrival at
>>> >>> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.
>>> >>> Basically,
>>> >>> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
>>> >>> >> >> what
>>> >>> >> >> one would call professional or even
>>> >>> acceptable
>>> >>> >> regardless of setting.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this
>>> >>> center;
>>> >>> >> only you can decide that
>>> >>> >> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is
>>> >>> that the
>>> >>> >> man who did this to me was
>>> >>> >> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered,
>>> >>> has been
>>> >>> >> reported multiple times
>>> >>> >> >> by
>>> >>> >> >> other females that he has violated in one
>>> >>> way or
>>> >>> >> another, and still holds
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> a
>>> >>> >> >> job here.  I believe there is something
>>> >>> big
>>> >>> >> going on here that I am
>>> >>> >> >> unaware
>>> >>> >> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful people
>>> >>> here, but
>>> >>> >> regardless of that, I
>>> >>> >> >> could
>>> >>> >> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
>>> >>> decision.  If
>>> >>> >> it does not, please know
>>> >>> >> >> that
>>> >>> >> >> I wish you all the best.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
>>> >>> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>>> >>> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>>> >>> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>>> >>> >> >> Impossible is not a word
>>> >>> >> >> It's just a reason
>>> >>> >> >> For someone not to try
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
>>> >>> >> >> When they decide to take that step
>>> >>> >> >> Out on the water
>>> >>> >> >> It'll be alright
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Life is so much more
>>> >>> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
>>> >>> >> >> You will find your way
>>> >>> >> >> If you keep believing"
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >>> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >>> >> On
>>> >>> >> >> Behalf
>>> >>> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
>>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
>>> >>> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> >>> mailing
>>> >>> >> list
>>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> >>> Employment
>>> >>> >> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Ian,
>>> >>> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny,
>>> >>> but I used
>>> >>> >> to go there on to
>>> >>> >> >> stay
>>> >>> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only
>>> >>> thing I can
>>> >>> >> say is that LWSB has
>>> >>> >> >> made
>>> >>> >> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I
>>> >>> would
>>> >>> >> think about visiting
>>> >>> >> >> there
>>> >>> >> >> before deciding one way or the other. They
>>> >>> do have
>>> >>> >> an option to live off
>>> >>> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there
>>> >>> is not a
>>> >>> >> sign in and sign out
>>> >>> >> >> policy  after class time. Now they may
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> >> sign in and sign out policy
>>> >>> >> >> during class time to keep count of
>>> >>> attendance,
>>> >>> >> however, this is know
>>> >>> >> >> different signing in and signing out of
>>> >>> work which
>>> >>> >> everyone blind and
>>> >>> >> >> sighted has to do.
>>> >>> >> >> The IRS program is one of the best
>>> >>> programs there
>>> >>> >> and frankly since you
>>> >>> >> >> have
>>> >>> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS
>>> >>> offices,
>>> >>> >> it is a guarantied
>>> >>> >> >> employment after completing the program
>>> >>> and they
>>> >>> >> start at 45,000 or more.
>>> >>> >> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as
>>> >>> I said
>>> >>> >> above LWSB now known as
>>> >>> >> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot
>>> >>> of
>>> >>> >> changes under the new
>>> >>> >> >> director
>>> >>> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the
>>> >>> food is now.
>>> >>> >> As I said earlier, I
>>> >>> >> >> would make a visit there before making any
>>> >>> kind of
>>> >>> >> decision.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Anmol
>>> >>> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and
>>> >>> they never
>>> >>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
>>> >>> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at
>>> >>> times; but it
>>> >>> >> is vague, like a
>>> >>> >> >> breeze
>>> >>> >> >> among flowers.
>>> >>> >> >> Hellen Keller
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>>> >>> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> >>> Employment
>>> >>> >> Training Programs
>>> >>> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind
>>> >>> Students"
>>> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
>>> >>> >> >>> Hi
>>> >>> >> >>> I'm wondering if any of you have
>>> >>> attended
>>> >>> >> LWSB for one of their
>>> >>> >> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB
>>> >>> in
>>> >>> >> general?
>>> >>> >> >>> I'm looking into one of the IRS
>>> >>> programs, and
>>> >>> >> was reading the manual,
>>> >>> >> >>> and it seems like a very strict and
>>> >>> structured
>>> >>> >> environment, even
>>> >>> >> >>> though most of the participants are
>>> >>> adults. For
>>> >>> >> instance, you have to
>>> >>> >> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere
>>> >>> and things
>>> >>> >> like that. Have any of
>>> >>> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I'd love to hear
>>> >>> what your
>>> >>> >> experiences were. Since
>>> >>> >> >>> I've been to college, it sounds like
>>> >>> it's
>>> >>> >> not as independent of an
>>> >>> >> >>> environment.
>>> >>> >> >>> Ian
>>> >>> >> >>>
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