[nabs-l] meeting results and what to dotogetaworkingcomputerfor college
Brandon Keith Biggs
brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
Tue Jul 24 19:38:03 UTC 2012
Hello,
12 units is really not that difficult. 19 is.
I usually take anywhere between 14-19 units in a quarter, hovering on the
lower end.
The college instructors are not restricted by the state to do all these dumb
requirements, not as much as high school teachers. The students often want
to be there and they fail if they don't. As you get to the upper level
college classes, life becomes much more simple and college is so much easier
as a blind student than it is for sighted students.
BTW having double time on tests is heaven!
Thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:22 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to dotogetaworkingcomputerfor
college
Hi all,
Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Beth,
> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the college
> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to tell
> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>
> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
> to the failures of previous times in college. What happens to
> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
> of thing?
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>
> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly my point. I can't afford school with SSI only and the
> loans aren't worth crap. Even with Obama's little forgivenes
> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
> things
> back.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
> aworkingcomputerfor college
>
> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
> But ...
> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
> they pay
> for stuff. So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
> financial reasons.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
> I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
> if I
> sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
> what
> rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
> apply to
> schools just like anyone else?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link even. They don't want me to have a Mac
> because I'm "not proficient." They are interpreting even a few
> keystrokes as "no proficiency." I don't know what to say or do
> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
> stupid
> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> workingcomputerfor college
>
> Hello,
> If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
> should just
> go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
> this in order
> to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
> a
> professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
> that
> assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
> the adaptive
> technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
> supervisor know
> that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
> college and if
> they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
> computer. Because
> you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
> failure, you really
> need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
> support in
> the world.
> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
> This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
> you want in
> college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
> have a Mac.
> First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
> for you. They
> will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
> moving
> and firm
> that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
> have, even
> though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
> is
> the key and
> independence is the way.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
> working
> computerfor college
>
> Hi. The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
> but made me aware of stuff. They don't want me to have a Mac
> because they don't feel I should have one. I understand they
> don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
> apps
> fell on deaf ears. They want me to do a "situational
> assessment
> and work adjustment training." They found an agency for me to
> work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
> and
> counseling therapies. Honestly, I'm getting tired of this. I
> didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
> the
> top priority. But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
> their
> plans. They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
> adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
> the horse" with college and all. But most sighted normal
> people
> go to college and get a major. What am I supposed to do?
> Thanks,
> Beth
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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