[nabs-l] meeting results and whattodotogetaworkingcomputerforcollege

Brandon Keith Biggs brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
Tue Jul 24 21:09:12 UTC 2012


Hello,
That's what the problem was. Everyone I believe takes the entrance exams and 
you can request if they don't have you take them and just place you in the 
lower classes.
For majors like Music or theatre Entrance exams are required.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- 
From: Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:58 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and 
whattodotogetaworkingcomputerforcollege

Actually that isn't true. The entrance exams are usually for seeing if you
place in remedial classes. Otherwise, everyone is put in to freshman
english, a general science class, etc.
You can place out of some 100 level classes; so maybe that is what Brandon
is refering to.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Beth
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:28 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what
todotogetaworkingcomputerforcollege

I already have an AA degree.  I didn't take the so-called Klast
exam.  I was almost ready to take the math portion of that exam,
but still.  I'm not sure.
Beth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:20:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to
dotogetaworkingcomputerforcollege

Hello,
Did you take an entrance exam? Because mostly they only ask you
to take the
lower level classes if you don't pass the entrance exams.
Even as a transfer my first week of college is going to be chock
full of
exams to see where I'll place. I'm prepping for them as we
speak...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:34 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to
dotogetaworkingcomputerfor
college

Rehab isn't the only one that pays for 12 credit hours.
The Pell Grant won't cover you unless you have 12 credit hours.
It's overwhelming for anyone, not just you.
I hated my first year, because they wanted me to take all of
these
developmental courses, (stuff I had in high school!)
Then, they told me that I needed to get a General Education
certificate.
That would've taken me 2 years, which is okay, but I had to go
back to
get a real degree!
I wasn't going to have that!
I found out that I could get a behavioral health degree, in order
to
do what I wanted to do, (which was to counsel children and work
for
VR.
I'm getting that degree, next May!
Had they told me of the Behavioral Health degree, when I started
in
2009, I'd be out of school, and probably at LCB!
Good grief!
That's Rehab for you!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/24/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so
you
don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't
there,
so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
privileged was that some people don't go to college because they
want
to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their
minds
gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into
picking a
specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to
go.
They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just
party
their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying
is
that the argument of college kids being more mature than high
school
kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to
have
immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that
in
college, people are being let out of their cages. They're
roaring and
stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a
grand
old time because it's the first time they've been away from
home. No
parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with.
Nobody
saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them
from
sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if
they
didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face
it, we
live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really
don't
know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids
were
treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid
supposed
to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and
showed
them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back
then.
I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
actually went to a school for the blind to complete my
education. Oh,
the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think
Google
indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is
that I
know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same
education
that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until
reading
this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady
side of
the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview
as
well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits
worth
of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I
don't
want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation
entails.

On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Beth,
Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the
college
you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be
able to tell
you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic
situation.
Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
togetaworkingcomputerfor college

I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
of thing?
Beth

----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
getaworkingcomputerfor college

Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
Thanks, Joshua

On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
things
back.
Beth

   ----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
aworkingcomputerfor college

The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
But ...
if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
they pay
for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
financial reasons.

Dave


On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
   I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm
sorry
if I
   sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
what
   rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
apply to
   schools just like anyone else?

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
wrote:

   Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
stupid
work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
   Beth

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
workingcomputerfor college

   Hello,
   If you graduated high school and got excepted into college,
you
should just
   go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
this in order
   to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
a
   professional blind technology person and it's your right to
get
that
   assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
the adaptive
   technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
supervisor know
   that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
college and if
   they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
computer. Because
   you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
failure, you really
   need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the
best
support in
   the world.
   http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
   This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the
experience
you want in
   college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need
to
have a Mac.
   First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
for you. They
   will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
moving
and firm
   that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
have, even
   though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
is
the key and
   independence is the way.
   Thanks,

   Brandon Keith Biggs
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Beth
   Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
   To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
working
   computerfor college

   Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing
anything
   but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
   because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
   don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
apps
   fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
assessment
   and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
   work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
and
   counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
   didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
the
   top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
their
   plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
   adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart
before
   the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
people
   go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
   Thanks,
   Beth


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