[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do togetaworkingcomputerfor college

Tue Jul 24 23:57:58 UTC 2012

Hi, Desiree.
You told me in an E-mail, that you sang in choirs during your school
years, and you also play the guitar.
Why not major in music?
Thanks, Joshua

On 7/24/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Desiree,
> I don't want to say anything about your particular case because as you
> said wwe don't know you and I'm sure you've been through a lot. But
> please don't keep this idea  of college being some sort of zoo filled
> with wild violent students. I guess there are many colleges in many
> places, but most universities aren't like that and actually provide
> you with enough resources to do well, even if you didn't receive the
> best high school education. If you pick a major that's not related to
> math you really won't have much trouble, because believe it or not you
> won't be expected to know much about math when taking whatever low
> level cclass that they require everyone to take.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
>> don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
>> easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
>> so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
>> privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
>> to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
>> gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
>> specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
>> They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
>> their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
>> that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
>> kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
>> immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
>> college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
>> stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
>> old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
>> parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
>> saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
>> sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
>> didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
>> live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
>> One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
>> know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
>> treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
>> to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
>> them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
>> I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
>> As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
>> actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
>> the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
>> indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
>> know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
>> that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
>> college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
>> this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
>> the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
>> well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
>> of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
>> want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
>>
>> On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Beth,
>>> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the college
>>> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to
>>> tell
>>> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Beth
>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
>>> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>
>>> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
>>> to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
>>> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
>>> of thing?
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
>>> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>
>>> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
>>> loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
>>> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
>>> things
>>> back.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
>>> aworkingcomputerfor college
>>>
>>> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
>>> But ...
>>> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
>>> they pay
>>> for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
>>> financial reasons.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>  I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
>>> if I
>>>  sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
>>> what
>>>  rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
>>> apply to
>>>  schools just like anyone else?
>>>
>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>> because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
>>> keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
>>> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
>>> stupid
>>> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
>>> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
>>>  Beth
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>> workingcomputerfor college
>>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>  If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
>>> should just
>>>  go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>>> this in order
>>>  to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>>> a
>>>  professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
>>> that
>>>  assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
>>> the adaptive
>>>  technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>>> supervisor know
>>>  that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
>>> college and if
>>>  they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
>>> computer. Because
>>>  you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
>>> failure, you really
>>>  need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
>>> support in
>>>  the world.
>>>  http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>>>  This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
>>> you want in
>>>  college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
>>> have a Mac.
>>>  First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
>>> for you. They
>>>  will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
>>> moving
>>> and firm
>>>  that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>>> have, even
>>>  though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
>>> is
>>> the key and
>>>  independence is the way.
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Beth
>>>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>>>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>> working
>>>  computerfor college
>>>
>>>  Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>>>  but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>  because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>>>  don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
>>> apps
>>>  fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
>>> assessment
>>>  and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>>>  work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
>>> and
>>>  counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>>>  didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
>>> the
>>>  top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
>>> their
>>>  plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>>>  adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>>>  the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
>>> people
>>>  go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Beth
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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