[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do togetaworkingcomputerfor college

Wed Jul 25 00:02:24 UTC 2012

Ignasi, it's overwhelming, when you have instructors that aren't accomidating!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/24/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> 12 credits is the minimum requirement to be a full time student.
> That's less than what most people take per semester. Why do we need to
> exaggerate like this? 12 credits is really not much work!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Joshua Lester
> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Rehab isn't the only one that pays for 12 credit hours.
>> The Pell Grant won't cover you unless you have 12 credit hours.
>> It's overwhelming for anyone, not just you.
>> I hated my first year, because they wanted me to take all of these
>> developmental courses, (stuff I had in high school!)
>> Then, they told me that I needed to get a General Education certificate.
>> That would've taken me 2 years, which is okay, but I had to go back to
>> get a real degree!
>> I wasn't going to have that!
>> I found out that I could get a behavioral health degree, in order to
>> do what I wanted to do, (which was to counsel children and work for
>> VR.
>> I'm getting that degree, next May!
>> Had they told me of the Behavioral Health degree, when I started in
>> 2009, I'd be out of school, and probably at LCB!
>> Good grief!
>> That's Rehab for you!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/24/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
>>> don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
>>> easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
>>> so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
>>> privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
>>> to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
>>> gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
>>> specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
>>> They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
>>> their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
>>> that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
>>> kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
>>> immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
>>> college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
>>> stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
>>> old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
>>> parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
>>> saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
>>> sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
>>> didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
>>> live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
>>> One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
>>> know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
>>> treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
>>> to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
>>> them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
>>> I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
>>> As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
>>> actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
>>> the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
>>> indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
>>> know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
>>> that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
>>> college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
>>> this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
>>> the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
>>> well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
>>> of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
>>> want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
>>>
>>> On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Beth,
>>>> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the
>>>> college
>>>> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to
>>>> tell
>>>> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Beth
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
>>>> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
>>>> to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
>>>> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
>>>> of thing?
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
>>>> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
>>>> loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
>>>> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
>>>> things
>>>> back.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
>>>> aworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
>>>> But ...
>>>> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
>>>> they pay
>>>> for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
>>>> financial reasons.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>  I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
>>>> if I
>>>>  sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
>>>> what
>>>>  rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
>>>> apply to
>>>>  schools just like anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>> because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
>>>> keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
>>>> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
>>>> stupid
>>>> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
>>>> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
>>>>  Beth
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>>  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>  Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>>>>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>> workingcomputerfor college
>>>>
>>>>  Hello,
>>>>  If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
>>>> should just
>>>>  go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>>>> this in order
>>>>  to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>>>> a
>>>>  professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
>>>> that
>>>>  assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
>>>> the adaptive
>>>>  technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>>>> supervisor know
>>>>  that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
>>>> college and if
>>>>  they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
>>>> computer. Because
>>>>  you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
>>>> failure, you really
>>>>  need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
>>>> support in
>>>>  the world.
>>>>  http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>>>>  This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
>>>> you want in
>>>>  college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
>>>> have a Mac.
>>>>  First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
>>>> for you. They
>>>>  will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
>>>> moving
>>>> and firm
>>>>  that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>>>> have, even
>>>>  though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
>>>> is
>>>> the key and
>>>>  independence is the way.
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>  Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: Beth
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>>>>  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>  Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>> working
>>>>  computerfor college
>>>>
>>>>  Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>>>>  but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>  because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>>>>  don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
>>>> apps
>>>>  fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
>>>> assessment
>>>>  and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>>>>  work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
>>>> and
>>>>  counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>>>>  didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
>>>> the
>>>>  top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
>>>> their
>>>>  plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>>>>  adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>>>>  the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
>>>> people
>>>>  go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  Beth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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