[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do togetaworkingcomputerfor college

Wed Jul 25 19:59:59 UTC 2012

No, not really. I suppose it's an option, but any kind of "therapist"
probably has to have a PHD. No offense, but I don't think I can go
through 10 more years of school. 4? Maybe. 10? No way.

On 7/25/12, Herrin, Amber R. <herrinar at muohio.edu> wrote:
> Have you considered being a music therapist?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Amber
>
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joshua,
>> I thought of that, but there's nothing in the music field that I would
>> really want to do. I certainly would not want to be a music teacher.
>> For one thing, with the experiences I've had with teachers, and seeing
>> how much teachers have to bend over backwards to meet the government's
>> standards and do nothing more or less, I would never feel right in
>> that field. I thought about being a deejay, but I wouldn't feel
>> comfortable having to rotate the same top 40. Plus, I'm not quick with
>> witty responses and things as radio personalities have to be to keep
>> things interesting. If you didn't have to be totally limited to
>> playing a specific set of songs no matter what station you worked at,
>> and if you didn't have to make this ridiculous schedule where you only
>> can talk for 20 seconds before a commercial break and have to make
>> your playlists a day in advance, I would think about it. I'm one of
>> those people who has a huge appreciation for music, and an equally
>> large collection spanning all different genres. Limiting myself that
>> way would be suffocating. I do know a bit about working in a radio
>> station. When I was 16, I actually worked at one of those reading
>> services for the blind. My responsibility was to make sure the
>> controls were operating properly, switch the mics over when someone
>> was reading, and to play tapes with tv guides and special features and
>> things. When I had the floor, so to speak, I had anywhere from 20-30
>> seconds to announce what would be coming next before commercials would
>> be automatically broadcast. I found that I always cut it too close or
>> cut off the beginning of the first commercial altogether because, as I
>> said, I'm not good at thinking fast.
>> Other than being a musician, which IMO doesn't require a college
>> education, though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have one for that
>> purpose either, I can't think of any music-related professions. I
>> appreciate the suggestion, though.
>>
>> On 7/24/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi, Desiree.
>>> You told me in an E-mail, that you sang in choirs during your school
>>> years, and you also play the guitar.
>>> Why not major in music?
>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/24/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Desiree,
>>>> I don't want to say anything about your particular case because as you
>>>> said wwe don't know you and I'm sure you've been through a lot. But
>>>> please don't keep this idea  of college being some sort of zoo filled
>>>> with wild violent students. I guess there are many colleges in many
>>>> places, but most universities aren't like that and actually provide
>>>> you with enough resources to do well, even if you didn't receive the
>>>> best high school education. If you pick a major that's not related to
>>>> math you really won't have much trouble, because believe it or not you
>>>> won't be expected to know much about math when taking whatever low
>>>> level cclass that they require everyone to take.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
>>>>> don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
>>>>> easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
>>>>> so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
>>>>> privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
>>>>> to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
>>>>> gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
>>>>> specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
>>>>> They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
>>>>> their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
>>>>> that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
>>>>> kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
>>>>> immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
>>>>> college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
>>>>> stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
>>>>> old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
>>>>> parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
>>>>> saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
>>>>> sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
>>>>> didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
>>>>> live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
>>>>> One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
>>>>> know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
>>>>> treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
>>>>> to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
>>>>> them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
>>>>> I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
>>>>> As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
>>>>> actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
>>>>> the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
>>>>> indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
>>>>> know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
>>>>> that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
>>>>> college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
>>>>> this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
>>>>> the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
>>>>> well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
>>>>> of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
>>>>> want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Beth,
>>>>>> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the
>>>>>> college
>>>>>> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Beth
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
>>>>>> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
>>>>>> to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
>>>>>> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
>>>>>> of thing?
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
>>>>>> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
>>>>>> loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
>>>>>> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> back.
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
>>>>>> aworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
>>>>>> But ...
>>>>>> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
>>>>>> they pay
>>>>>> for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
>>>>>> financial reasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>>> I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
>>>>>> if I
>>>>>> sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
>>>>>> apply to
>>>>>> schools just like anyone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>>> because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
>>>>>> keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
>>>>>> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
>>>>>> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>>>> workingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
>>>>>> should just
>>>>>> go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>>>>>> this in order
>>>>>> to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
>>>>>> the adaptive
>>>>>> technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>>>>>> supervisor know
>>>>>> that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
>>>>>> college and if
>>>>>> they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
>>>>>> computer. Because
>>>>>> you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
>>>>>> failure, you really
>>>>>> need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
>>>>>> support in
>>>>>> the world.
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>>>>>> This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
>>>>>> you want in
>>>>>> college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
>>>>>> have a Mac.
>>>>>> First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
>>>>>> for you. They
>>>>>> will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
>>>>>> moving
>>>>>> and firm
>>>>>> that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>>>>>> have, even
>>>>>> though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the key and
>>>>>> independence is the way.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Beth
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> computerfor college
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>>>>>> but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>>> because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>>>>>> don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
>>>>>> apps
>>>>>> fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
>>>>>> assessment
>>>>>> and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>>>>>> work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>>>>>> didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>>>>>> adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>>>>>> the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter @dandrews920
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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