[nabs-l] meeting results and what to do togetaworkingcomputerfor college

Wed Jul 25 20:51:37 UTC 2012

You certainly don't need a PHD to be a music therapist...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, not really. I suppose it's an option, but any kind of "therapist"
> probably has to have a PHD. No offense, but I don't think I can go
> through 10 more years of school. 4? Maybe. 10? No way.
>
> On 7/25/12, Herrin, Amber R. <herrinar at muohio.edu> wrote:
>> Have you considered being a music therapist?
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Amber
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joshua,
>>> I thought of that, but there's nothing in the music field that I would
>>> really want to do. I certainly would not want to be a music teacher.
>>> For one thing, with the experiences I've had with teachers, and seeing
>>> how much teachers have to bend over backwards to meet the government's
>>> standards and do nothing more or less, I would never feel right in
>>> that field. I thought about being a deejay, but I wouldn't feel
>>> comfortable having to rotate the same top 40. Plus, I'm not quick with
>>> witty responses and things as radio personalities have to be to keep
>>> things interesting. If you didn't have to be totally limited to
>>> playing a specific set of songs no matter what station you worked at,
>>> and if you didn't have to make this ridiculous schedule where you only
>>> can talk for 20 seconds before a commercial break and have to make
>>> your playlists a day in advance, I would think about it. I'm one of
>>> those people who has a huge appreciation for music, and an equally
>>> large collection spanning all different genres. Limiting myself that
>>> way would be suffocating. I do know a bit about working in a radio
>>> station. When I was 16, I actually worked at one of those reading
>>> services for the blind. My responsibility was to make sure the
>>> controls were operating properly, switch the mics over when someone
>>> was reading, and to play tapes with tv guides and special features and
>>> things. When I had the floor, so to speak, I had anywhere from 20-30
>>> seconds to announce what would be coming next before commercials would
>>> be automatically broadcast. I found that I always cut it too close or
>>> cut off the beginning of the first commercial altogether because, as I
>>> said, I'm not good at thinking fast.
>>> Other than being a musician, which IMO doesn't require a college
>>> education, though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have one for that
>>> purpose either, I can't think of any music-related professions. I
>>> appreciate the suggestion, though.
>>>
>>> On 7/24/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Desiree.
>>>> You told me in an E-mail, that you sang in choirs during your school
>>>> years, and you also play the guitar.
>>>> Why not major in music?
>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/24/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Desiree,
>>>>> I don't want to say anything about your particular case because as you
>>>>> said wwe don't know you and I'm sure you've been through a lot. But
>>>>> please don't keep this idea  of college being some sort of zoo filled
>>>>> with wild violent students. I guess there are many colleges in many
>>>>> places, but most universities aren't like that and actually provide
>>>>> you with enough resources to do well, even if you didn't receive the
>>>>> best high school education. If you pick a major that's not related to
>>>>> math you really won't have much trouble, because believe it or not you
>>>>> won't be expected to know much about math when taking whatever low
>>>>> level cclass that they require everyone to take.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Tyler, I can't be offended by your post. You don't know me, so you
>>>>>> don't really know why it was that no one ever respected me. It's
>>>>>> easier to assume that it was my own fault because you weren't there,
>>>>>> so I'll let that slide. Also, what I meant about people being
>>>>>> privileged was that some people don't go to college because they want
>>>>>> to be there, they go on a sports scholarship, which in their minds
>>>>>> gives them a license to be jerks. Some are pressured into picking a
>>>>>> specific major by their parents, and the parents pay for them to go.
>>>>>> They end up miserable. Some get other scholarships and just party
>>>>>> their lives away. It's all one big game to them. All I'm saying is
>>>>>> that the argument of college kids being more mature than high school
>>>>>> kids doesn't work with me. As a general rule, you're going to have
>>>>>> immature people everywhere you go, that's life. But I know that in
>>>>>> college, people are being let out of their cages. They're roaring and
>>>>>> stomping their way through campus, tearing it up and having a grand
>>>>>> old time because it's the first time they've been away from home. No
>>>>>> parents to tell them who they can and cannot be friends with. Nobody
>>>>>> saying they can't order pizza every night. No one to stop them from
>>>>>> sleeping with someone. It would make anybody crazy, I guess, if they
>>>>>> didn't know how to get a grip on their desires, and let's face it, we
>>>>>> live in a society that's centered on instant gratification.
>>>>>> One thing I will say though was that in grade school, you really don't
>>>>>> know how to advocate for yourself. When the teachers and kids were
>>>>>> treating me horribly, what was a scared 7 or 8-year-old kid supposed
>>>>>> to do about it? Yeah, I could have beaten those kids up and showed
>>>>>> them blind people aren't helpless, but I was pretty passive back then.
>>>>>> I'm not proud of that, but the past is the past.
>>>>>> As for my high school days, after I got out of middle school I
>>>>>> actually went to a school for the blind to complete my education. Oh,
>>>>>> the stories I could tell! But I won't, because I don't think Google
>>>>>> indexing them would be a good idea. What I will say though is that I
>>>>>> know I suffered academically. I wasn't receiving the same education
>>>>>> that I know my sighted peers were. So I feel very unprepared for
>>>>>> college. I never heard of academic probation in my life until reading
>>>>>> this thread, but it sure sounds scary. Sounds like the shady side of
>>>>>> the law, or if not that, a sure way to fail every job interview as
>>>>>> well. Also, rehab only pays for college if you take 12 credits worth
>>>>>> of classes. I think that would probably be overwhelming to me. I don't
>>>>>> want to fail and find out exactly what academic probation entails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/24/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Beth,
>>>>>>> Why don't you find out? Talk to your financial aid office at the
>>>>>>> college
>>>>>>> you'll go to and talk to an academic advisor. They should be able to
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> you if you can qualify for pell grants with your academic situation.
>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Beth
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:16 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do
>>>>>>> togetaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if I qualify because I'm on academic probation due
>>>>>>> to the failures of previous times in college.  What happens to
>>>>>>> people on academic probation and financial stuff with that sort
>>>>>>> of thing?
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:53:44 -0500
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to
>>>>>>> getaworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, do you not qualify for Pell grants?
>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/20/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Exactly my point.  I can't afford school with SSI only and the
>>>>>>> loans aren't worth crap.  Even with Obama's little forgivenes
>>>>>>> plan on loans, it's still not worth a lick to pay the darn
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:10:44 -0500
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get
>>>>>>> aworkingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The basic answer to your question is yes, a person can just go.
>>>>>>> But ...
>>>>>>> if you are a client of rehab, have an approved plan, etc., then
>>>>>>> they pay
>>>>>>> for stuff.  So, she may need to get rehab's approval for
>>>>>>> financial reasons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2012 12:10 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>>>> I really don't know how the system works in the US so I'm sorry
>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>> sound completely ignorant, but why do you care so much about
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> rehab wants you to do? If you want to go to college can't you
>>>>>>> apply to
>>>>>>> schools just like anyone else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link even.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>>>> because I'm "not proficient."  They are interpreting even a few
>>>>>>> keystrokes as "no proficiency."  I don't know what to say or do
>>>>>>> at this point because I want to succeed in college and thi
>>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>>> work assessment training, but whaut they did to me, I don't know
>>>>>>> whether it should be pointed out or avenged.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Date sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:21:14 -0700
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>>>>> workingcomputerfor college
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> If you graduated high school and got excepted into college, you
>>>>>>> should just
>>>>>>> go and tell them that you're going and you need this, this and
>>>>>>> this in order
>>>>>>> to be independent. You need to have a technology assessment by
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> professional blind technology person and it's your right to get
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> assessment. If your counselor doesn't get you the meeting with
>>>>>>> the adaptive
>>>>>>> technology professionals, talk to their supervisor. Let the
>>>>>>> supervisor know
>>>>>>> that your rehab counselor is keeping you from succeeding in
>>>>>>> college and if
>>>>>>> they want you to pass your classes, you have got to have a
>>>>>>> computer. Because
>>>>>>> you aren't someone with time to worry about a technology
>>>>>>> failure, you really
>>>>>>> need an apple computer that will be dependable and has the best
>>>>>>> support in
>>>>>>> the world.
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/why-mac/
>>>>>>> This is why you need a mac, and you have not had the experience
>>>>>>> you want in
>>>>>>> college with your PC, so because you want the best, you need to
>>>>>>> have a Mac.
>>>>>>> First rule of rehab, they want you to do and show what's best
>>>>>>> for you. They
>>>>>>> will only guide you if you let them. you must be sure, un
>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>> and firm
>>>>>>> that this is what you want and there is nothing better you can
>>>>>>> have, even
>>>>>>> though there may be things you're uncertain about. Confidence
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the key and
>>>>>>> independence is the way.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Beth
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:01 PM
>>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] meeting results and what to do to get a
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> computerfor college
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.  The meeting with rehab was unsuuccessful in doing anything
>>>>>>> but made me aware of stuff.  They don't want me to have a Mac
>>>>>>> because they don't feel I should have one.  I understand they
>>>>>>> don't buy macs in Colorado, but my concern about third party
>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>> fell on deaf ears.  They want me to do a "situational
>>>>>>> assessment
>>>>>>> and work adjustment training."  They found an agency for me to
>>>>>>> work at, and they're forcing me to go to mental health group
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> counseling therapies.  Honestly, I'm getting tired of this.  I
>>>>>>> didn't think a mental issue would cause the employment to be
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> top priority.  But I can't exactly go along with Rehab and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> plans.  They pretty much coerced me into doing the work
>>>>>>> adjustment training, saying that I was "putting the cart before
>>>>>>> the horse" with college and all.  But most sighted normal
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> go to college and get a major.  What am I supposed to do?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter @dandrews920
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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