[nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 10 19:55:28 UTC 2012


Hi all,
Brandon makes a good point. I believe media coverage and exposing the fact 
that good will pays sub minimum wage will help more than a boycott.
Like Brandon, I have not shopped at Good will either nor do I plan to.

Also, I don't understand why we picked on Good will when other large 
nonprofits do it.
Second, we do not generally speak for all people with disabilities; most 
press releases say "largest consumer organization of the blind" or something 
like it, not people with disabilities.
Our focus is usually on blind people.
Third, I don't believe all Good will locations pay sub minimum wage. Where 
is the evidence?
I noticed the press release gave no facts, just called for a boycott.

Finally, if they do adopt minimum wage, this doesn't make sub minimum wage 
go away.
I question why all people with disabilities should be paid minimum wage. 
Should people who are very cognitively delayed who have no expenses and are 
cared for in group homes be paid minimum wage? Something to think about. 
Should they be paid that much when they cannot see the paycheck and handle 
it like adults? No, they should not be paid $1, but I wonder if they really 
need minimum wage for work that is not comperable to that of other workers.

I have mixed feelings on this issue. Some of you say you are surprised we 
still have sub minimum wage for disabled workers. Well, I have news for you. 
There are jobs exempt from minimum wage standards. Farm workers, even the 
legal workers, are one example. Read some books, and you'll see the 
exemptions and loopholes.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sophie Trist
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:19 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Brandon, I see what you mean at people shopping at Goodwill. But
I have sold old clothes and stuff to Goodwill as well. I think
they mean a boycott in the buying and selling senses.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:42:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Hello,
I have not shopped at good will in many years. I don't know very
many people
who shop at Good Will, so I'm not sure if a Boycott alone will do
the trick.
Maybe if everyone contacted their newspapers and TV stations
telling them of
the boycott and why there is a boycott. Many people find that
working
without minimum wage is insane. But just to hammer the point
home, point out
that this under minimum wage is a way for the United States to
keep a
handhold on under minimum wage so there is some way for under
minimum wage
to be instituted back in for everyone else. The precedent is
there, so
everyone needs to overturn this law so no one anywhere in the
United States
can ever be paid under minimum wage  again.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message-----
From: Humberto Avila
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:10 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Hello, I agree with this as well. I hope that by doing the
boycott to this
company, in the national / universal spectrum, we are able to put
pressure
on employers, and on other companies and corporations, as well as
organizations who pay subminimum wages. We could eventually end
up
spreading the word of stopping companies to pay subminimum wages
and they
could even see that people with disabilities and including blind
people are
capable of being paid like the sighted population. If potential
employers
see this change happening, those employers will have a light bulb
lit up,
and will be able to see that blind people are competent, then
will hire
them. Then we can make more change. I see this happening, from my
personal
opinion. Let's hope that the NFB does this.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Sophie Trist
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

Justin,

I agree with the points you've made. If Goodwill was boycotted
universally, it would put more pressure on them to pay their
disabled workers fair wages. Plus, if Goodwill developed a
centralized wage policy and gave their workers fair wages, other
corporations might follow their lead.

----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu
To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 23:19:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Goodwill Boycott

One more note: I think that local business decision-makers within
Goodwill Industries would be educated/led to philosophical change
simply by the fact that the corporate leaders of Goodwill
Industries adopted a universal fair wage policy (if they did), so
that would help with the education, too.

Justin M. Salisbury
Class of 2012
B.A. in Mathematics
East Carolina University
president at alumni.ecu.edu

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.?
—MARGARET MEAD
________________________________________
From: Justin Salisbury
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 7:13 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: Goodwill Boycott

Arielle, Gabe, and all:

I like the point that you've made about the decentralized wage
policies and rewarding good locations, but do you think that
perhaps a benefit to boycotting universally would be a
possibility that Goodwill Industries would create a centralized
(universal) policy that all locations must pay their workers fair
wages?

I feel like the end result that we want is for Goodwill
Industries to adopt a universal standard of paying all workers
fair wages, and the approach that you all have mentioned seems to
me to address the decisions in individual locations.  I do
understand the point of leading local business leaders to undergo
philosophical change and choose to pay their workers fair wages,
but which item is the top priority: education of individuals or
achievement of fair wages?   That's not a rhetorical question; I
want to hear opinions on it.

Justin

Justin M. Salisbury
Class of 2012
B.A. in Mathematics
East Carolina University
president at alumni.ecu.edu

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.?
—MARGARET MEAD


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