[nabs-l] did anybody happen to see any messages sent on my Behalf?

Thu Jun 28 21:18:34 UTC 2012

That's kinda my point, but I digress.

On 6/28/12, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com> wrote:
>
> Feel free to tell me how you're going to pull a social security number
> from someone's name. You have a few routes.
> 1) Phishing. Send out a message that tells them something is up,
> redirect them to a form and there you go. Lots of people would do that,
> which is why it's so common. With a bit of research it's possible.
>
> It's pretty hard to get someone's social outright though minus social
> engineering. Unless you manage to infect their computer that works, but
> even banks and other similar sites don't tend to show the full number,
> they might just show the last four, for example. That leaves you 5 more
> numbers to get to. Organizations and corporations should never be
> sending social security numbers through email, because that would be
> incredibly non-PCI compliant, so having an email address and a password
> might net you some info, but you're still going to have to do a lot of
> work to pull it. At best, you could get a credit card number or
> something, but even that is usually xxx-xxx-xxx-0000 or something.
>
> On 6/28/2012 12:12 PM, josh gregory wrote:
>> Tyler;
>>
>> I understand where you are coming from. But, don't you think that it's
>> even remotely possible for identity theft to happen with only email
>> info. All a person needs nowadays is your name, date of birth, and
>> social security number. If, all this is in your account (which
>> everything is besides your ss number) then they have a path to go
>> down. If you're more comfortable talking about it offlist, feel free
>> to write me privately (and that goes for anyone).
>>
>> On 6/28/12, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com> wrote:
>>> I just wanted to clear something up, because people are throwing around
>>> words and it's totally off.
>>> First, people very rarely sit around and just crack random gmail
>>> passwords. A good password is nice because this happens, but it's not to
>>> often. Generally spam happens because you have a virus that did a couple
>>> of things. Either it just uses your email client (why bother trying to
>>> get your password when that's already available), or it will just wait
>>> for you to log into something and send your info off to something. There
>>> are also botnets, where people can rent out computers. Someone just
>>> connects, pays $10 for 500 computers for 30 seconds or something and
>>> uploads their program, then it runs and that's that. This is also
>>> because of a virus.
>>>
>>> If you think you have issues with your email client, virus scan (I use
>>> security essentials as well as malwarebytes), then change your password.
>>> Identity theft is something different altogether. Someone gets your
>>> credit card/social and uses that.
>>> On 6/28/2012 11:54 AM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>> Humberto,
>>>> If anyone contacted you, it was probably off list.
>>>> If you think identity theft is going on, contact your email provider
>>>> about it.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Humberto Avila
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:05 AM
>>>> To: blindTlk at nfbNet.org ; nfbWaTlk at nfbNet.org ; nabs-l at nfbNet.org ;
>>>> GUI-talk at nfbNet.org ; nfbcs at nfbNet.org ; musicTlk at nfbNet.org ;
>>>> reader-users at nfbNet.org ; jobs at nfbNet.org
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] did anybody happen to see any messages sent on my
>>>> Behalf?
>>>>
>>>> Hello everybody:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My sincere apologies for cross posting this message to all lists I'm
>>>> subscribed to, and also if I am off topic.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to write in regards to a recent activity I have seen on
>>>> listserves,
>>>> where apparently a member of the list sends an email message with no
>>>> subject
>>>> and a strange link in the body of the message. Unless that member
>>>> really
>>>> intended to send the message, someone hacking e-mail accounts probably
>>>> causes this and it is spreading spam. Did anyone happen to see any
>>>> message
>>>> that looks strange or with no subject, under my name or email address?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not someone who is just wanting to scream out and share widely my
>>>> findings just because I find this kind of stuff on any list, nor am I
>>>> the
>>>> moderator what so ever. However, the reason I am asking this question
>>>> is
>>>> because, this evening, I happen to look at my account activity under my
>>>> gMail account and something noticed my attention.
>>>>
>>>> As I was looking at the last activity, a saw a table with 3 columns and
>>>> about 12 or so rows. The table summarizes the type of activity,
>>>> whether it
>>>> is use of browser, mail client, or some other, then a row with the
>>>> location
>>>> and IP address, and the date and time accessed. Usually, this lists my
>>>> preferred methods of accessing gmail, which is through outlook and
>>>> firefox,
>>>> and then the IP address of my computer which was pretty much the same.
>>>> Under
>>>> the location row, the page displays the info in the form, for example,
>>>> "united States (WA) (66.189.2.)", meaning that is coming from
>>>> Washington
>>>> State in the USA, and is my computer's IP address. However, in one of
>>>> the
>>>> rows, the information displayed was something like "United States (CA)
>>>> (66.200.)". It appears that somebody from California had access to my
>>>> account and this is not my IP address.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back on topic for these lists, blind people are getting more and more
>>>> access
>>>> to technology and information as well as the sighted population in this
>>>> world. We use e-mail every day to communicate as well as social media.
>>>> Therefore, fellow blind computer users, I would like to give you a
>>>> piece of
>>>> recommendation to you out of courtesy. If you notice something
>>>> spreading
>>>> like this across your contacts (this includes e-mail addresses of
>>>> lists you
>>>> put out as contacts in your webmail address book), like this "no
>>>> subject-and-link" thing, please check your webmail site for your last
>>>> account activity, or whatever is called on your specific webmail
>>>> provider or
>>>> email provider. To you gMail users, look for the text, "last account
>>>> activity" on any page and there should be any link there to take you
>>>> to the
>>>> activity using whatever page view you prefer using, either Basic html
>>>> or
>>>> Standard. To all others, look for a similar text under your webmail
>>>> pages
>>>> and see if you notice any unusual activity like this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This may be that some clever spammer is breaking into your account and
>>>> knows
>>>> how to get your password. If so, please change your password so this
>>>> does
>>>> not happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am only sending this out for your information and to make sure there
>>>> is no
>>>> further identity theft if this is to continue in more depth. We should
>>>> protect our accounts, not just our e-mail accounts, so that these
>>>> things do
>>>> not occur in the future. If you see any suspicious activities, please
>>>> take
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again, thank you for reading this and I am sorry if this goes too
>>>> off-topic.
>>>> If you want to reply about this matter, please do so off-list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Humberto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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