[nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 01:34:13 UTC 2012
Hi=20Brian,
What=20station?=20Maybe=20I=20can=20listen=20to=20your=20show=20online!
Chris=20Nusbaum
Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Brian=20Hatgelakas"=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20sent:=20Sun,=2025=20Mar=202012=2022:23:54=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
Josh,
I=20do=20part=20time=20at=20a=20commercial=20station=20already!
-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Joshua=20Lester"=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Sunday,=20March=2025,=202012=209:37=20PM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20Hi,=20Brian.
=20I=20know=20plenty=20of=20blind=20women,=20who=20are=20endependent!
=20Didn't=20you=20say=20in=20a=20previous=20post,=20that=20you=20were=20an=
=20aspiring=20DJ?
=20Why=20not=20try=20to=20apply=20to=20work=20for=20this=20station?
=20http://www.wics.cc
=20The=20owner=20of=20this=20station,=20is=20an=20endependent=20blind=20wom=
an!
=20Please=20try=20to=20show=20more=20compassion!
=20Thanks,=20Desiree,=20for=20the=20great=20post!
=20I'm=20in=20agreement=20with=20you!
=20Blessings,=20Joshua
=20On=203/25/12,=20Brian=20Hatgelakas=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>=20
wrote:
=20In=20my=20experiences=20with=20visually=20handicapped=20women=20most=20o=
f=20them=20
I've
=20encountered=20that=20are=20at=20my=20age=20level=20are=20uneducated=20an=
d=20still=20
living
=20under
=20their=20parents=20roof.=20=20My=20rule=20is=20that=20any=20woman=20I=20d=
ate=20should=20be=20
on=20the
=20same
=20level=20both=20chronologically=20and=20mentally=20as=20I=20am.=20=20I've=
=20graduated=20
college
=20and
=20have=20been=20on=20my=20own=20since=202003.=20=20I=20am=20very=20indepen=
dent.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"jeff=20crouch"=20<jeffanel at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20March=2025,=202012=205:24=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20Yeah,=20I=20would=20like=20to=20try=20dating=20a=20VI=20Girl,=20just=20t=
o=20see=20what=20it=20
would
=20be=20like,=20But=20unfornchely=20their=20is=20no=20one=20hear=20in=20fli=
nt.
=20On=203/25/12,=20Brian=20Hatgelakas=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>=20
wrote:
=20Me=20neither.=20=20But=20I=20am=20just=20warning=20Jeff=20to=20be=20care=
ful.=20=20Back=20
then=20when
=20I
=20went=20on=20dates=20I=20enjoyed=20myself=20very=20much.=20=20But=20I=20n=
oticed=20during=20
the=20High
=20School=20years=20most=20girls=20weren't=20as=20accepting=20of=20me=20and=
=20I=20had=20
more=20luck
=20with
=20dating=20during=20college=20than=20high=20school.=20=20But=20again=20dur=
ing=20the=20
few=20times
=20I
=20dated=20as=20a=20teen=20I=20had=20fun.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Ignasi=20Cambra"=20<ignasicambra at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20March=2025,=202012=209:43=20AM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
I=20don't=20see=20anything=20wrong=20with=20dating=20during=20high=20school=
.=20=20It=20
was
fun!!!
=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone
=20On=20Mar=2025,=202012,=20at=207:17=20AM,=20Brian=20Hatgelakas
=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>=20wrote:
=20 at Jeff=20my=20advice=20to=20you=20is=20wait=20until=20college=20to=20star=
t=20dating.=20=20I=20
did
=20this
=20and=20am=20very=20happy=20I=20did.=20=20=20=20By=20doing=20this=20the=20=
women=20by=20the=20time=20
you
=20enter
=20college=20will=20be=20much=20more=20mature=20and=20accepting=20of=20your=
=20blindness
=20situation.=20=20Right=20now=20as=20a=20teenager=20make=20friends=20and=20=
don't=20get=20
caught
=20up
=20in=20something=20you=20know=20won't=20last.=20=20Because=20at=20your=20a=
ge=20its=20
mostly
=20figuring=20out=20who=20you=20are=20and=20that's=20the=20same=20for=20gir=
ls.=20=20Good=20
luck=20in
=20your=20studies=20and=20don't=20worry=20as=20you=20get=20older=20your=20c=
hance=20to=20
date
=20will
=20be
=20hear=20before=20you=20know=20it.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----=20From:=20"jeff=20crouch"=20
<jeffanel at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20March=2024,=202012=207:11=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20ah,=20it=20must=20be=20nice=20being=20of=20legal=20age,=20but=20i=20am=20=
15,=20and=20I=20would
=20like
=20to=20be=20in=20a=20releasonship,=20but=20the=20practicablity=20of=20this=
=20happening=20
is
=20slim,=20with=20school,=20and=20extra=20crickler=20activatives=20things=20=
would=20
not
=20really=20work=20out,=20but=20as=20i=20said,=20it=20would=20be=20nice.
=20in=20a=20onist=20way=20of=20putting=20it,=20from=20a=20adault=20point=20=
of=20view,=20it=20
would
=20be
=20pointless=20for=20me=20to=20get=20in=20a=20releationship=20because=20it=
=20is=20just=20
over
=20reactive=20hormons=20that=20would=20get=20in=20the=20way=20and=20then=20=
after=20a=20wile
=20things=20would=20simmer=20down,=20and=20hear=20that=20person=20go's,=20o=
n=20the=20hunt
=20again.
=20this=20is=20my=20point=20of=20view
=20but=20i=20think=20you=20would=20have=20good=20luck=20in=20the=20online=20=
dating=20world,=20
but
=20as=20one=20of=20the=20posters=20said,=20becareful,=20i=20know=20from=20e=
xperence,=20my
=20friend=20did=20that=20online=20stuff,=20and=20then=20well=20to=20putt=20=
it=20i=20have=20
not
=20seen
=20her=20for=20quite=20some=20years,=20she=20went=20missing,=20so=20be=20ca=
reful
=20don't=20mean=20to=20sound=20like=20a=20dad,=20lol
=20every=20one=20have=20a=20good=20day,=20and=20if=20anyone=20needs=20to=20=
contact=20me,=20
you
=20can
=20email=20me=20at
=20jeffanel at gmail.com
=20or
=20kd8qiq at arrl.net
=20with=20love=20and=20respect
=20Jeff=20Crouch
=20On=203/24/12,=20Amy=20Sabo=20<amylsabo at comcast.net>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20doug,
=20Congratulations=20on=20your=20upcoming=20nuptials=20with=20you=20and=20m=
ellissa.
=20I'm
=20sooo
=20happy=20for=20the=20both=20of=20you!=20Here's=20wishing=20you=20both=20g=
ood=20health=20
and
=20happiness.
=20Take=20care=20and,=20I=20will=20talk=20to=20you=20soon.
=20Hugs,
=20amy
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
=20On
=20Behalf
=20Of=20Doug=20Oliver
=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20March=2022,=202012=208:05=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20we=20are.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Beth"=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20March=2022,=202012=208:28=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20Doug,=20good=20luck=20with=20your=20fiancee.=20=20I=20hope=20the=20two=20=
of=20you=20are
=20still=20working.
=20Beth
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Doug=20Oliver"=20<oliver.doug1 at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Thu,=2022=20Mar=202012=2019:54:51=20-0500
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20I'm=20gonna=20way=20in=20on=20this=20topic.
=20My=20fiancee=20is=20actually=20sited=20and=20I'm=20blind,=20she's=20been=
=20around
=20blind=20people
=20growing=20up,=20so=20she's=20very=20much=20accustomed=20to=20dating=20a=
=20blind
=20person.
=20We've=20met=20in=20person=20twice=20and=20it's=20been=20great.
=20Take=20care,
=20Doug
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Ashley"=20<cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20March=2022,=202012=207:42=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20Hello=20all,
=20Like=20some=20of=20the=20people=20who=20have=20posted=20already,=20I=20h=
ave=20had=20my
=20own
=20experiences=20with=20dating,=20as=20well=20as=20simply=20meeting=20peopl=
e=20
online.
=20As=20a
=20matter=20of=20fact,=20my=20current=20boyfriend=20is=20someone=20I=20met=
=20online,=20
and
=20he
=20is=20blind=20as=20well.=20=20We=20have=20been=20dating=20a=20little=20ov=
er=20a=20year=20now,
=20and=20I
=20have=20also=20had=20the=20chance=20to=20meet=20him=20in=20person.=20=20I=
=20can=20say=20that
=20some=20of
=20what=20we've=20been=20through,=20especially=20when=20we=20met,=20was=20b=
oth=20good
=20and
=20bad,=20and=20even=20though=20he=20is=20blind,=20it=20was=20a=20little=20=
more=20
disastrous
=20because=20of=20his=20family=20who=20are=20sighted.=20=20Well=20the=20fir=
st=20time=20we
=20actually
=20got=20to=20"see"=20each=20other=20was=20through=20a=20webcam,=20and=20bo=
th=20families
=20were
=20present,=20not=20only=20for=20descriptive=20purposes=20but=20also=20beca=
use=20of=20
us
=20being=20long=20distance,=20and=20it=20was=20the=20only=20way=20the=20two=
=20families
=20could
=20meet.=20=20About=206=20months=20later=20I=20got=20to=20visit=20him=20in=
=20person,=20and=20
that
=20was
=20a=20little=20weird=20because=20he=20lives=20in=20another=20country,=20an=
d=20a=20part=20
of
=20another=20culture,=20and=20that=20in=20itself=20brings=20its=20own=20bar=
riers.=20=20I
=20actually=20stayed=20at=20his=20house=20with=20his=20family,=20and=20I=20=
imagine=20it
=20was
=20hard=20on=20them=20because=20they've=20never=20dealt=20with=20another=20=
blind
=20person
=20besides=20him,=20and=20he=20is=20not=20as=20independent=20as=20I=20am.=20=
=20I=20have=20also
=20met
=20sighted=20people=20online,=20but=20I=20did=20not=20meet=20them=20through=
=20dating
=20sites.=20=20I
=20met=20them=20through=20pages=20we=20both=20visit,=20(blogs,=20etc),=20an=
d=20in=20my
=20opinion,
=20that's=20better=20because=20you're=20actually=20meeting=20people=20you=20=
have
=20things
=20in=20common=20with,=20regardless=20of=20whether=20you=20date=20or=20not,=
=20and=20like
=20most
=20people=20have=20said=20already,=20one=20of=20the=20main=20things=20to=20=
consider=20
when
=20dating=20someone,=20blind=20or=20sighted,=20is=20what=20kinds=20of=20thi=
ngs=20you
=20share=20in
=20common=20with=20the=20other=20person.=20=20I=20personally=20have=20never=
=20dated=20a
=20sighted
=20person,=20but=20I=20have=20made=20some=20interesting=20friends=20online=
=20who=20are
=20sighted.=20=20Some=20know=20I'm=20blind,=20and=20some=20do=20not,=20but=
=20not=20because=20
I
=20haven't=20wanted=20to=20tell=20them.=20=20I=20don't=20meet=20these=20peo=
ple=20in=20
person
=20mainly=20because=20most=20of=20them=20are=20not=20from=20the=20U.S.=20=20=
and=20therefore
=20it
=20really=20hasn't=20come=20up.=20=20Besides,=20I'm=20not=20as=20close=20to=
=20them,=20and=20
we
=20mainly=20talk=20about=20music,=20which=20is=20what=20i=20have=20in=20com=
mon=20with=20
most
=20of
=20these=20people=20I=20meet=20anyway.=20=20I=20have=20also=20met=20blind=20=
friends=20
online,
=20and
=20basically=20the=20same=20goes=20for=20them.=20=20So=20as=20most=20people=
=20have=20
already
=20said,
=20I=20don't=20think=20it's=20that=20much=20different=20dating=20a=20sighte=
d=20person
=20from=20a
=20blind=20person.=20=20A=20blind=20person=20might=20be=20a=20little=20more=
=20
understanding
=20considering=20they=20go=20through=20some=20of=20the=20same=20things.=20=
=20But=20on=20the
=20other
=20side,=20that=20may=20not=20always=20be=20the=20case,=20if=20the=20person=
=20isn't
=20completely
=20adjusted=20to=20their=20blindness,=20or=20they=20have=20been=20with=20th=
eir=20family
=20their
=20entire=20life,=20and=20don't=20really=20understand=20the=20independence=
=20issue
=20such
=20as=20in=20my=20case.=20=20So=20I=20think=20dating=20both=20blind=20and=20=
sighted=20people
=20can
=20have=20their=20ups=20and=20downs,=20and=20it's=20just=20a=20matter=20of=
=20knowing=20how
=20to
=20handle=20each=20situation=20as=20it=20comes.=20=20Good=20luck.
=20On=203/22/12,=20Arielle=20Silverman=20<arielle71 at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Hi=20all,
=20I=20have=20a=20little=20experience=20with=20online=20dating,=20but=20not=
=20much.=20=20I
=20was=20on
=20a=20dating=20site=20for=20a=20year=20or=20so=20and=20chatted=20with=20a=
=20few=20guys=20but
=20didn't
=20find=20anyone=20I=20actually=20wanted=20to=20meet=20in=20person.=20=20I=
=20have=20a=20lot=20
of
=20friends=20(sighted=20and=20blind)=20who=20do=20online=20dating=20and=20I=
've=20heard
=20the
=20whole=20gamut,=20from=20happily-ever-after=20marriages=20to=20disastrous=
=20first
=20dates=20and=20a=20few=20people=20who=20walked=20away=20after=20my=20frie=
nd's
=20blindness=20was
=20revealed=20online.=20=20It=20really=20doesn't=20hurt=20to=20try=20it.=20=
=20If=20you=20do
=20find
=20someone=20you=20like=20and=20want=20to=20meet,=20it's=20best=20to=20meet=
=20them=20in=20a
=20public
=20place.=20=20But=20there's=20nothing=20dangerous=20about=20just=20putting=
=20a
=20profile=20up
=20and=20seeing=20what=20happens.
=20Some=20dating=20sites=20are=20free=20and=20others=20charge=20a=20fee=20f=
or=20joining.
=20Interestingly,=20the=20site=20I=20used=20was=20free,=20and=20when=20I=20=
was=20visiting
=20my
=20sister=20and=20her=20roommate=20they=20were=20checking=20out=20one=20of=
=20the=20paid
=20sites.
=20I=20told=20them=20about=20the=20free=20site=20I=20was=20on=20and=20they=
=20looked=20at=20it
=20and
=20said=20they=20thought=20the=20guys=20on=20the=20free=20site=20were=20a=20=
lot=20more
=20attractive
=20and=20appealing=20than=20the=20guys=20on=20the=20paid=20one.=20=20So=20i=
t's=20possible
=20the
=20people=20you=20might=20meet=20on=20a=20free=20site=20are=20less=20"despe=
rate"=20and
=20hence
=20are=20better=20catches.
=20I'm=20sure=20there's=20a=20lot=20of=20debate=20about=20when=20to=20revea=
l=20blindness
=20during
=20an=20online=20dating=20encounter.=20=20Some=20people=20put=20it=20in=20t=
heir
=20profiles,
=20others=20wait=20until=20the=20first=20meeting=20and=20still=20others=20r=
eveal=20it
=20at=20some
=20point=20in=20the=20middle.=20=20I'd=20tend=20to=20treat=20it=20like=20a=
=20job=20interview
=20and
=20reveal=20blindness=20after=20I've=20connected=20with=20someone=20online=
=20but
=20before
=20we=20meet=20in=20person=20so=20they=20aren't=20totally=20shocked=20or=20=
freaked=20out
=20when
=20they=20see=20me.=20=20Unfortunately=20rejections=20due=20to=20blindness=
=20can
=20happen=20at
=20any=20point=20in=20the=20process.=20=20You'll=20have=20to=20decide=20whe=
ther=20you
=20would
=20prefer=20to=20take=20that=20risk=20earlier=20on=20or=20to=20give=20them=
=20a=20chance=20to
=20get=20to
=20know=20you=20before=20they=20learn=20about=20your=20blindness.
=20Regarding=20dating=20blind=20vs.=20=20sighted=20people:=20Like=20many=20=
of=20us=20I
=20have=20done
=20both.=20=20I=20never=20consciously=20decided=20that=20I=20wanted=20to=20=
date=20a=20blind
=20person
=20or=20a=20sighted=20person,=20and=20I=20would=20not=20recommend=20that=20=
line=20of
=20thinking.
=20I=20simply=20dated=20guys=20with=20whom=20I=20felt=20a=20connection=20an=
d=20who=20felt
=20the
=20same=20way=20toward=20me,=20regardless=20of=20whether=20or=20not=20they=
=20were
=20blind.=20=20I
=20will=20say=20that=20in=20some=20ways=20establishing=20the=20initial=20re=
lationship
=20was
=20easier=20with=20blind=20guys,=20because=20I=20didn't=20have=20to=20wonde=
r=20about
=20what
=20nonverbal=20signals=20they=20were=20sending=20or=20how=20they=20might=20=
interpret
=20my
=20nonverbal=20signals.=20=20However,=20when=20I=20try=20to=20compare=20the=
=20relationship=20I
=20have=20had=20with=20my=20sighted=20boyfriend=20over=20the=20past=20three=
=20years
=20with=20the
=20other=20relationships=20I=20have=20had=20with=20blind=20guys,=20I=20real=
ly=20can't
=20think
=20of=20any=20major=20differences.=20=20I=20do=20think=20that=20regardless=
=20of
=20blindness
=20status,=20it's=20important=20for=20you=20and=20your=20partner=20to=20sha=
re
=20interests=20and
=20passions=20in=20common.=20=20NFB=20and=20blindness=20are=20passions=20th=
at=20many=20of
=20us
=20share,=20and=20they=20help=20bring=20many=20blind=20couples=20together.=
=20=20
However,
=20there
=20are=20other=20interests=20or=20passions=20you=20may=20share=20with=20sig=
hted=20folks
=20around=20you,=20and=20finding=20a=20partner=20who=20shares=20one=20of=20=
those
=20passions
=20with=20you=20can=20be=20similarly=20rewarding.=20=20In=20other=20words,=
=20instead=20of
=20deciding=20who=20to=20date=20based=20on=20whether=20they=20are=20sighted=
=20or=20blind,
=20I
=20think=20it's=20more=20helpful=20to=20choose=20based=20on=20how=20much=20=
you=20share=20in
=20common=20with=20them.=20=20I=20know=20that=20for=20us=20blind=20folks=20=
it=20can=20be=20hard
=20to
=20meet=20and=20connect=20with=20people=20at=20bars=20or=20large=20gatherin=
gs=20like
=20singles'
=20parties.=20=20But=20if=20you=20can=20find=20communities=20of=20people=20=
that=20share
=20your
=20interests-whether=20that=20be=20your=20local=20NFB=20chapter=20or=20stud=
ent
=20division,
=20classes,=20church=20groups=20or=20clubs=20you=20might=20be=20in-that's=20=
a=20much
=20better
=20way=20to=20build=20lasting=20connections.
=20Arielle
=20On=203/22/12,=20Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=C5=82=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.c=
om>=20wrote:
=20Oops,=20I=20missed=20a=20point:=20I=20wouldn't=20go=20to=20an=20NFB=20co=
nvention
=20simply=20for
=20the=20dating=20scene.=20=20I'm=20sure=20relationships=20do=20develop=20a=
t=20things
=20like
=20that,=20however=20most=20people=20are=20going=20to=20be=20preoccupied=20=
with
=20general
=20sessions,=20exhibits,=20orientation=20around=20a=20huge=20massive=20hote=
l,=20etc
=20etc
=20to=20really=20pay=20attention=20to=20who's=20around=20them=20for=20datin=
g.
=20Later.
=20On=2022.03.2012,=20Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=C5=82=20<nimerjaber1 at gmai=
l.com
=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Robin,
=20Or=20you=20could=20just=20go=20ahead=20and=20do=20the=20online=20dating=
=20thing=20and
=20learn
=20from=20it.=20=20It=20has=20turned=20out=20well=20for=20some,=20and=20not=
=20so=20well=20for
=20others.
=20As=20for=20the=20sighted=20vs.=20=20blind=20thing,=20I=20would=20ask=20w=
hat=20you=20want.
=20Not
=20dating=20a=20blind=20person=20simply=20because=20you=20think=20you'll=20=
look=20cool
=20and
=20more=20independent=20for=20dating=20a=20sighted=20person=20will=20limit=
=20your
=20options,
=20just=20like=20not=20dating=20a=20sighted=20person=20because=20you're=20a=
fraid=20of
=20being
=20rejected=20is=20crazy=20as=20well.=20=20We're=20all=20individuals.=20=20=
Many=20blind
=20people
=20have=20underlying=20disabilities,=20some=20may=20not=20be=20adjusted=20t=
o=20their
=20blindness=20completely,=20etc=20but=20you=20wouldn't=20have=20to
=20necessarily
=20feel=20self-conscious=20about=20the=20blindness=20issues,=20your=20appea=
rance,
=20etc
=20etc.=20=20Sighted=20people=20in=20my=20experience=20are=20going=20to=20a=
sk=20many
=20questions.
=20Especially=20at=20first,=20you'll=20probably=20have=20to=20do=20a=20whol=
e=20lot=20more
=20educating=20than=20dating,=20and=20it=20might=20get=20annoying,=20but=20=
many=20are
=20willing
=20to=20learn=20and=20it=20could=20work=20out.=20=20As=20for=20good=20datin=
g=20sites=20...=20=20
why
=20not
=20just=20getting=20onto=20the=20social=20networks=20like=20Facebook=20and=
=20put=20your
=20status=20as=20single?=20Maybe=20attend=20some=20of=20the=20singles=20con=
ferences
=20that
=20are=20out=20there?=20And=20if=20someone=20interests=20you,=20then=20go=20=
after=20them
=20(whether=20online=20or=20not).
=20Anyway,=20talk=20to=20you=20later=20and=20peace.=20=20May=20you=20have=20=
much=20luck=20
with
=20your
=20dating=20search.
=20Nimer=20J
=20On=2022.03.2012,=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
=20wrote:
=20Also,=20it=20has=20been=20proven,=20that=20there=20are=20people=20on=20c=
hat=20sites,
=20that
=20pretend=20to=20be=20something,=20to=20get=20your=20attention,=20and=20th=
en=20when
=20you=20meet
=20them,=20they're=20a=20criminal.
=20Be=20careful,=20and=20meet=20people=20one=20on=20one,=20and=20in=20perso=
n.
=20Come=20to=20the=20NFB=20convention,=20and=20you=20might=20meet=20someone=
,=20and=20oh
=20yes,
=20there=20are=20sighted=20members=20in=20the=20NFB,=20as=20well!
=20Blessings,=20Joshua
=20On=203/22/12,=20Gloria=20G=20<gloria.graves at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Hi,
=20I=20have=20never=20gone=20on=20to=20any=20of=20the=20online=20dating=20s=
ites,=20but=20I
=20would=20be
=20very
=20careful=20because=20a=20person=20online=20is=20not=20as=20friendly=20or=
=20charming
=20as=20they
=20appear=20to=20be=20over=20emails.=20=20I=20have=20dated=20very=20few=20b=
lind=20people=20
and
=20find
=20that
=20there=20is=20always=20a=20focus=20on=20blindness=20in=20the=20relationsh=
ip=20and=20I
=20feel
=20that
=20is
=20a=20negative=20thing=20at=20times=20because=20we=20all=20live=20with=20b=
lindness=20on
=20a
=20daily
=20basis=20and=20want=20to=20know=20we=20are=20more=20than=20our=20blindnes=
s.=20=20I=20have
=20found
=20there
=20are=20a=20lot=20of=20people=20open=20to=20dating=20a=20blind=20person=20=
especially
=20when=20they
=20are
=20confident=20and=20out=20going.=20=20I=20have=20been=20in=20a=20relations=
hip=20with=20a
=20sited
=20person
=20for=203=20years=20and=20things=20are=20wonderful.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Robin"=20<robinmel71 at earthlink.net
=20To:=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Thursday,=20March=2022,=202012=204:47=20PM
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Dating=20&=20Sighted-Blind-Low=20Vision
=20Hello=20to=20everyone,
=20I=20am=20just=20wondering=20if=20anyone=20has=20had=20any=20experience=20=
with=20online
=20dating
=20and=20if=20so=20what=20sites=20would=20you=20recommend?=20What=20experie=
nces=20have
=20you
=20had
=20with=20dating=20sighted=20people=20vs=20dating=20blind=20people?=20I=20l=
ook
=20forward=20to
=20hearing=20your=20stories.
=20I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my=20limitations,=20and=20they=20never=20ma=
ke=20me=20sad.
=20Perhaps
=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of=20yearning=20at=20times;=20but=20it=20=
is=20vague,
=20like=20a
=20breeze
=20among=20flowers.
=20Hellen=20Keller
=20_______________________________________________
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=20--
=20Nimer=20Jaber,=20IC=C5=82=20and=20Freedom=20Scientific=20JAWS=20Certific=
ations
=20The=20message=20above=20is=20intended=20for=20the=20recipient=20to=20who=
m=20it=20was
=20addressed.=20=20If=20you=20believe=20that=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte=
nded
=20recipient,
=20please=20notify=20me=20via=20reply=20email=20and=20destroy=20all=20copie=
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=20correspondence.=20=20Action=20taken=20as=20a=20result=20of=20this=20emai=
l=20or=20its
=20contents
=20by=20anyone=20other=20than=20the=20intended=20recipient=20may=20result=20=
in=20civil
=20or
=20criminal=20action.=20=20I=20have=20checked=20this=20email=20and=20all=20=
corresponding
=20attachments=20for=20security=20threats.=20=20However,=20security=20of=20=
your
=20machine=20is
=20up=20to=20you.=20=20Thanks.
=20Registered=20Linux=20User=20529141.
=20http://counter.li.org/
=20Vinux=20testing=20and=20documentation=20coordinator
=20To=20get=20more=20information=20about=20a=20free=20and=20accessible=20op=
erating
=20system,
=20please=20click=20here:
=20http://www.vinuxproject.org
=20To=20find=20out=20about=20a=20free=20and=20versatile=20screen=20reader=20=
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=20XP
=20and=20above,=20please=20click=20here:
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=20Check=20out=20my=20blog=20related=20to=20technology=20by=20clicking=20he=
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=20To=20contact=20me,=20you=20can=20reply=20to=20this=20email=20or=20you=20=
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=20--
=20Nimer=20Jaber,=20IC=C5=82=20and=20Freedom=20Scientific=20JAWS=20Certific=
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=20The=20message=20above=20is=20intended=20for=20the=20recipient=20to=20who=
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=20correspondence.=20=20Action=20taken=20as=20a=20result=20of=20this=20emai=
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=20contents
=20by=20anyone=20other=20than=20the=20intended=20recipient=20may=20result=20=
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corresponding
=20attachments=20for=20security=20threats.=20=20However,=20security=20of=20=
your
=20machine=20is
=20up=20to=20you.=20=20Thanks.
=20Registered=20Linux=20User=20529141.
=20http://counter.li.org/
=20Vinux=20testing=20and=20documentation=20coordinator
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=20system,
=20please=20click=20here:
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