[nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 00:24:02 UTC 2012


All=20these=20complaints=20against=20what=20we=20NFB=20members=20call=20
"traditional=20rehab=20centers"=20and=20their=20policies=20make=20the=20NFB=
=20
training=20centers=20and=20their=20practices=20that=20much=20better!=20From=
=20what=20
I=20know=20about=20many=20of=20you=20from=20previous=20posts=20on=20this=20=
list,=20you=20
like=20the=20NFB=20philosophy=20and=20the=20fact=20that=20we=20believe=20bl=
ind=20people=20
can=20and=20should=20be=20expected=20to=20be=20as=20independent=20as=20we=20=
can.=20=20So,=20
why=20not=20go=20to=20an=20adult=20program=20at=20an=20NFB=20center?=20They=
=20offer=20the=20
same=20type=20of=20program=20and=20teach=20the=20same=20skills=20as=20tradi=
tional=20
facilities=20such=20as=20LWSB,=20but=20the=20NFB=20centers=20believe=20in=20=
teaching=20
independence=20and=20won't=20force=20you=20to=20take=20a=20class=20you=20do=
n't=20need.=20=20
I=20encourage=20you=20all=20to=20check=20them=20out!

Chris=20Nusbaum

Sent=20from=20my=20BrailleNote

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Brian=20Hatgelakas"=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20sent:=20Mon,=2026=20Mar=202012=2021:29:06=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology

Why=20would=20they=20make=20you=20take=20a=20TDL=20class=20if=20you=20are=20=
already=20doing=20
the=20stuff
on=20your=20own?=20=20If=20I=20went=20to=20a=20center=20for=20a=20job=20pla=
cement=20program=20
I'd=20show
them=20right=20away=20and=20try=20to=20opt=20out=20of=20the=20class.=20=20C=
ouldn't=20you=20
have=20done
this.=20=20Seams=20like=20those=20centers=20bring=20us=20independent=20peop=
le=20down=20
to=20the
lowest=20level=20of=20people=20that=20don't=20know=20anything=20about=20liv=
ing=20
independently
at=20first=20before=20you=20can=20get=20to=20the=20programs=20you=20are=20a=
ctually=20
paying=20for.
-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Joshua=20Lester"=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Monday,=20March=2026,=202012=207:20=20PM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology


They=20train=20people=20in=20Daily=20living=20skills,=20because=20I=20was=20=
forced=20to=20
take
that=20TDL,=20(Techniques=20of=20Daily=20Living,)=20class!
I=20hated=20it,=20because=20it=20was=20stuff,=20I=20already=20knew,=20and=20=
was=20doing=20
on=20my=20own!
Theresa=20Bailey=20taught=20it,=20and=20it=20was=20horible!
Blessings,=20Joshua

On=203/26/12,=20Brian=20Hatgelakas=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>=20
wrote:
=20I=20thought=20that=20LWSB=20didn't=20train=20people=20on=20daily=20livin=
g=20skills.=20=20
That's
=20what
=20I=20said!
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Nathan=20Clark"=20<troubleclark at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20March=2026,=202012=2012:28=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology


=20Dear=20Brian,
=20What=20are=20you=20refering=20to=20when=20you=20talk=20about=20the=20CCB=
=20job=20
training=20program?
=20Sincerely,
=20Nathan

=20On=203/26/12,=20Brian=20Hatgelakas=20<brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net>=20
wrote:
=20I=20wasn't=20aware=20that=20LWSB=20offered=20programs=20similar=20to=20t=
he=20Carol=20
Center's
=20and
=20Colorado=20Center's!=20=20I=20was=20always=20under=20the=20impression=20=
that=20it=20
was=20solely
=20a
=20job=20training=20center=20AKA=20an=20ITT=20tech=20or=20a=20Western=20Sch=
ool=20Of=20
Health=20And
=20business!
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20March=2026,=202012=2011:49=20AM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology


=20Brian,
=20it=92s=20a=20training=20center=20that=20provides=20independent=20living=
=20and=20job
=20training.
=20They=20provide=20training=20in=20help=20desk=20support=20and=20other=20I=
=20T=20stuff.
=20It=92s=20a=20training=20facility,=20=20not=20a=20job=20placement=20agenc=
y.=20=20so,=20it=20
will=20not
=20gaurantee=20employment.
=20I=20say=20let=20the=20programs=20run.=20=20If=20you=20don't=20like=20it,=
=20don't=20go=20
there,=20but
=20they

=20must=20=20be=20helping=20some=20people=20improve=20their=20lives.

=20Ashley


=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Brian=20Hatgelakas
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20March=2026,=202012=2010:25=20AM
=20To:=20nimerjaber1 at gmail.com=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20=

Students
=20mailing

=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology

=20If=20no=20employment=20is=20provided=20why=20not=20terminate=20all=20pro=
grams=20
accept=20the
=20IRS
=20program?=20=20My=20question=20is=20how=20much=20money=20is=20being=20was=
ted=20by=20state
=20agencies
=20on
=20useless=20programs=20at=20this=20center?=20=20I=20believe=20someone=20ne=
eds=20to=20do=20
an
=20investigative=20article=20on=20this=20topic.
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=B3"=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20March=2025,=202012=2010:54=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Careers=20in=20assistive=20technology


=20Joshua,

=20The=20only=20programs=20that=20will=20hire=20directly=20from=20WSB=20are=
=20the=20IRS
=20programs=20and=20they=20are=20not=20directly=20affiliated=20with=20WSB.=
=20=20You=20can=20
go=20to
=20any=20other=20IRS=20class=20and=20get=20the=20same=20offered=20position.=
=20=20WSB=20just
=20happens=20to=20be=20the=20location=20of=20an=20IRS=20training=20sight.=20=
=20The=20
employees
=20that=20teach=20those=20classes=20work=20directly=20for=20the=20IRS,=20an=
d=20the=20
computer
=20network=20used=20is=20solely=20for=20the=20IRS=20which=20makes=20the=20I=
RS=20classes=20
and=20WSB
=20two=20separate=20entities=20in=20my=20mind.=20=20Even=20if=20you=20wish=
=20to=20count=20the=20
IRS
=20classes=20as=20belonging=20to=20WSB,=20they=20have=20a=20bunch=20of=20ot=
her=20programs=20
that
=20will=20not=20provide=20employment=20once=20a=20program=20has=20been=20te=
rminated=20
and=20a
=20client=20has=20graduated=20successfully.

=20Thanks.

=20On=2025.03.2012,=20Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=B3=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.c=
om>=20
wrote:
=20Joshua,=20she=20went=20to=20Tyler=20Texas=20to=20teach=20with=20Jan=20at=
=20the=20Tyler=20
Light
=20House.

=20Desiree,=20as=20part=20of=20the=20ATI=20program,=20clients=20will=20rece=
ive=20a=20set=20
amount
=20of=20hours=20(that's=20not=20really=20counted)=20of=20practical=20experi=
ence=20
which=20is
=20the=20teaching=20of=20students=20for=20them=20that=20I=20mentioned,=20yo=
u=20receive=20
an=20ic=B3
=20certification=20which=20is=20outdated,=20hardly=20ever=20used=20or=20hea=
rd=20of,=20
and
=20mostly=20is=20unrelated=20to=20assistive=20technology,=20and=20because=20=
of=20my=20
request
=20that=20I=20put=20forward=20you=20now=20will=20attempt=20to=20pass=20the=
=20Freedom=20
Scientific
=20JAWS=20cert=20which=20again,=20isn't=20worth=20a=20whole=20lot=20seeing=
=20how=20it=20
places
=20much=20of=20its=20emphasis=20on=20how=20to=20access=20help=20and=20where=
=20to=20get=20
training
=20more=20than=20knowing=20how=20to=20most=20efficiently=20utilize=20the=20=
functions=20
of=20the
=20screen=20reader.=20=20For=20all=20of=20this,=20the=20training=20supposed=
ly=20takes=20
nine
=20months=20although=20I=20finished=20up=20in=20under=20four.=20=20This=20w=
as=20the=20old=20
program.
=20Now,=20the=20new=20instructor=20has=20been=20incorporating=20lessons=20o=
n=20
teaching
=20modalities,=20eye=20conditions,=20making=20equipment=20recommendations=20=
and
=20communicating=20with=20state=20Rehab=20counselors,=20etc=20etc.=20=20You=
=20don't=20
receive
=20a=20certification=20in=20any=20of=20this,=20unless=20you=20call=20a=20li=
ttle=20piece=20
of
=20paper=20and=20a=20pin=20from=20WSB=20telling=20you=20good=20job=20and=20=
that=20you=20
graduated
=20to=20be=20a=20certification.=20=20This=20is=20why=20I=20don't=20consider=
=20WSB=20to=20be=20a
=20school.=20=20Technically=20I'm=20sure=20they=20have=20to=20have=20some=20=

accreditation=20or
=20other=20to=20provide=20the=20services=20that=20they=20do,=20but=20I'm=20=
sure=20that=20if=20
they
=20are=20meeting=20the=20standards=20for=20it,=20they're=20barely=20doing=20=
so.=20=20And
=20sanitation=20issues=20in=20their=20buildings=20are=20pretty=20bad.=20=20=
They=20have=20
an
=20antiquated=20heating=20and=20cooling=20system=20that=20can=20not=20be=20=
switched=20
from
=20heat=20to=20AC=20quickly=20meaning=20that=20they=20will=20only=20make=20=
the=20switch=20
twice=20a
=20year,=20there=20are=20many=20bugs=20and=20some=20of=20the=20food=20provi=
ded=20is
=20unrecognizable,=20although=20when=20boar=20members=20are=20present=20the=
y=20do=20a=20
half
=20decent=20job.

=20Thanks.

=20On=2025.03.2012,=20Desiree=20Oudinot=20<turtlepower17 at gmail.com>=20wrote=
:
=20Hi,
=20So,=20if=20it's=20not=20a=20school,=20does=20that=20mean=20the=20accredi=
tation=20is
=20worthless?=20I'm=20just=20trying=20to=20understand=20that=20part=20of=20=
it.=20=20I=20
wouldn't
=20attend=20there,=20because=20I've=20heard=20some=20disturbing=20stories,=
=20to=20put=20
it
=20lightly,=20about=20sanitation=20issues=20in=20the=20dorms.

=20On=203/25/12,=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>=20
wrote:
=20I=20attended=20there,=20under=20the=20influence=20of=20my=20VR=20counsel=
or.
=20What=20a=20mistake!
=20I=20wanted=20to=20get=20in=20their=20AT=20program,=20but=20it=20was=20to=
o=20full.
=20They=20have=20an=20awesome=20ATI,=20(Assistive=20Technology=20Instructor=
,)=20
program,
=20that=20I=20would=20have=20highly=20recommended,=20if=20they=20had=20the=
=20
instructor,
=20that
=20I=20had.
=20We=20called=20her=20Ms=20Z.
=20Anyone=20remember=20her?
=20Blessings,Joshua

=20On=203/25/12,=20Nimer=20M.=20=20Jaber,=20IC=B3=20<nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>=
=20wrote:
=20Joshua,

=20LWSB=20is=20not=20a=20school,=20and=20I=20definitely=20wouldn't=20recomm=
end=20it=20for
=20several=20reasons.=20=20First,=20the=20program=20is=20being=20modified=20=
heavily=20
under
=20the=20influence=20of=20a=20new=20tech=20instructor=20they've=20just=20hi=
red,=20so=20I
=20would
=20say=20wait=20till=20everything's=20worked=20out.=20=20Second,=20there=20=
are=20quite=20
a=20few
=20places=20where=20mentioning=20"LWSB"=20will=20not=20land=20you=20work=20=
because=20of=20
its
=20reputation=20in=20the=20past.=20=20And,=20as=20mentioned,=20it=20is=20no=
t=20a=20school=20
which
=20means=20that=20you=20really=20can't=20depend=20on=20it=20for=20finding=20=
any=20kind=20of
=20employment.

=20Thanks.

=20On=2025.03.2012,=20Joshua=20Lester=20<jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>=20=

wrote:
=20http://www.lwsb.org
=20Blessings,=20Joshua

=20On=203/25/12,=20Kayla=20Paige=20<kayla.mattox at cox.net>=20wrote:
=20Hi,=20I=20have=20a=20question.=20=20What=20kind=20of=20school=20would=20=
you=20go=20to=20for=20
a
=20career
=20in
=20assistive=20technology?=20Even=20though=20I'm=20going=20to=20school=20fo=
r=20
massage
=20therapy,
=20my=20other=20interest=20is=20assistive=20technology.=20=20Thanks.
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=20Nimer=20Jaber,=20IC=B3=20and=20Freedom=20Scientific=20JAWS=20Certificati=
ons

=20The=20message=20above=20is=20intended=20for=20the=20recipient=20to=20who=
m=20it=20was
=20addressed.=20=20If=20you=20believe=20that=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte=
nded=20
recipient,
=20please=20notify=20me=20via=20reply=20email=20and=20destroy=20all=20copie=
s=20of=20this
=20correspondence.=20=20Action=20taken=20as=20a=20result=20of=20this=20emai=
l=20or=20its
=20contents
=20by=20anyone=20other=20than=20the=20intended=20recipient=20may=20result=20=
in=20civil=20
or
=20criminal=20action.=20=20I=20have=20checked=20this=20email=20and=20all=20=

corresponding
=20attachments=20for=20security=20threats.=20=20However,=20security=20of=20=
your=20
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=20is
=20up=20to=20you.=20=20Thanks.

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=20--
=20Nimer=20Jaber,=20IC=B3=20and=20Freedom=20Scientific=20JAWS=20Certificati=
ons

=20The=20message=20above=20is=20intended=20for=20the=20recipient=20to=20who=
m=20it=20was
=20addressed.=20=20If=20you=20believe=20that=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte=
nded=20
recipient,
=20please=20notify=20me=20via=20reply=20email=20and=20destroy=20all=20copie=
s=20of=20this
=20correspondence.=20=20Action=20taken=20as=20a=20result=20of=20this=20emai=
l=20or=20its=20
contents
=20by=20anyone=20other=20than=20the=20intended=20recipient=20may=20result=20=
in=20civil=20
or
=20criminal=20action.=20=20I=20have=20checked=20this=20email=20and=20all=20=

corresponding
=20attachments=20for=20security=20threats.=20=20However,=20security=20of=20=
your=20
machine=20is
=20up=20to=20you.=20=20Thanks.

=20Registered=20Linux=20User=20529141.
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=20Vinux=20testing=20and=20documentation=20coordinator
=20To=20get=20more=20information=20about=20a=20free=20and=20accessible=20op=
erating=20
system,
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promptly.



=20--
=20Nimer=20Jaber,=20IC=B3=20and=20Freedom=20Scientific=20JAWS=20Certificati=
ons

=20The=20message=20above=20is=20intended=20for=20the=20recipient=20to=20who=
m=20it=20was
=20addressed.=20=20If=20you=20believe=20that=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte=
nded=20
recipient,
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