[nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom

Sun Mar 11 19:04:40 UTC 2012

exactly. No good sound clues; so this is a case for a sighted guide.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:34 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom

Usually the music is so loud that you cannot use it to orient yourself.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andi" <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom

> If the school dance is at the school you wont need your cane anyway 
> because you probebly know your school well and if you get disoriented in 
> the gym the DJ speekers do not move so you can always get your baring's 
> using them. There are always refreshment tables and such so that is 
> another landmark. If worse comes to worse follow around the gym walls till 
> you get to a door and see what hall you are in or if you are in the 
> entrance way that will help.  As for dancing, just let your body move to 
> the music there are sighted people who can dance and also sighted people 
> who can't dance and many of them are their anyway on the dance floor. 
> Don't be afraid to look stupid or you will become stiff and it looks worse 
> then not nowing what you are doing.  Most of the time for fast dances 
> friends are in a group like a circle and just sort of move their hips and 
> sholders if they don't know any spasific dance moves.  Hips are the answer 
> always.  If you have trouble moving your hips bend one ne with the other 
> leg straight then switch your hips naturally pop out to the sides.  Then 
> just do it to the beet.  You can also add your hands down by your hips 
> kind of like a fan behind you side to side with your hips.  Also you can 
> role your sholders first one at a time but with flaver kind of look to 
> that side after the sholder is up as it is dropping back this is a slow 
> movement but hit the beet.  If you also put the same hand up in front of 
> and close to your sholder palm faceing forward and rock your hand and 
> sholder forward and back while stepping the same foot back and kind of 
> tilting backwards a little this is the rockaway.  It is simple and yet if 
> done right it looks cool.  The other moves are mostly for girls but the 
> rockaway can be done by guys s to.  Guys and girls can both look good 
> doing the hyphop two step. Basicly it is just step out with right foot 
> shifting weight on that foot bring left foot to right foot with out 
> putting weight on left foot slide left foot back to center, step right 
> foot back to center, repeet on left side then keep doing this right to 
> left can add hips if girl and if boy can add sholder lean.  Both guys and 
> girls can add side lean and hand movements if feeling it.  There are many 
> variations but this is basics of it.  Just feel the music that’s the main 
> thing.  There are many different things but I tried to explain the symple 
> but useful steps as best as I could sorry if it is confusing in anyway I 
> don't know how good my descriptions are.  Slow dances are symple and if 
> you are not atempting to do something spesific just kind of move in a slow 
> circle while faceing your partner in closed posission.  If anything needs 
> to be clarified let me know I will try to explain better.  Or just 
> disregard and do your own thing. Just let loose and go with the flow.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:28 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom
>
> I leave it somewhere and go dance; although its more recognizable if you
> don't fold it up.
> You can prop it against something and its out of the way.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Patrick Molloy
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:04 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom
>
> What's the best thing to do with a folding cane at any dance? Do you
> fold it up and carry it with you, or do you fold it up and leave it
> somewhere, then go dance, and when you want to leave, go and get it?
> Patrick
>
> On 3/10/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Or, a solution for the ladies who carry a purse, is to have one of those
>> smaller folding canes and keep it on your person at all times.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I agree the crowd and loud music and lighting makes it 
>>> disorienting.
>>> With low vision, it messes the contrast we use up. And the loud music
>>> makes it impossible to use open spaces as landmarks. I recommend using a
>>> guide as well. Have your cane stored in a secure place nearby.  Maybe by 
>>> a
>>>
>>> table or corner.
>>> Yes just try and have fun there.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Julie McGinnity
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:32 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> I attended Home Coming almost every year as well as my senior prom
>>> when i was in high school.  I have to admit, I didn't like the crowds,
>>> and the music wasn't really my taste, but I loved being able to hang
>>> out with my friends before and during the dance.  I always went with a
>>> big group, and we had a kind of pact that we would not leave each
>>> other, so we all took care to know where the others were.  They took
>>> turns sighted guiding since the cane would only trip others on the
>>> dance floor, and I never took my dog to dances once I got her.  I
>>> would recommend discussing with your date and possibly a couple
>>> friends before hand to make sure they understand how to guide you in a
>>> big crowd.  Personally, I found dances extremely disorienting because
>>> I am low vision, and the lighting is terrible, the crowd enormous, and
>>> the noise level is...  too much.
>>>
>>> Also, food is served at a lot of proms.  At ours there is a buffet,
>>> and my friends were able to help me through with no problem.  I
>>> recommend figuring out what will be happening with regards to food
>>> ahead of time.  A little note about prom food...  It's not the best,
>>> so if they are serving food, depending on your tastes, going out for a
>>> snack afterwords would not be a bad idea.
>>>
>>> I was always embarrassed to dance at the prom, but my friends always
>>> told me not to worry.  Just get out there, and have fun.  Have your
>>> date and/or your friends show you some dances and help you through,
>>> and you'll have a great time.  Good luck.
>>>
>>> On 3/10/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> well, you cannot exactly take your cane on the dance floor. So go 
>>>> sighted
>>>> guide with your date or friend. Then just follow their lead if you are 
>>>> a
>>>> girl. If you are the guy, you have to learn to lead. Also free form 
>>>> dance
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>> just a mix of moves like moving to the left, right forward and raising
>>>> your
>>>> hands up.
>>>> Someone could show you some typical dances beforehand; like YMCA has a
>>>> few
>>>> hand moves; so does Macarena. But lots of this is free form and hip hop
>>>> dance with no particular move.
>>>> But yep, Chris, its hard to go to a big crowded dance being low vision 
>>>> or
>>>> blind.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:53 PM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List ; nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Blindtlk] prom
>>>>
>>>> Great question, Winona! In fact, I had the same question; how do
>>>> we as blind people handle school dances as independently as we
>>>> can? I look forward to hearing everybody's responses!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Email and Google Talk/Keychat (on the BrailleNote) ID:
>>>> dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: christpher.nusbaum3 or search for Chris Nusbaum
>>>>
>>>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>>>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>>>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>>>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>>>> nuisance."
>>>> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Winona <trumpetqueenwb at gmail.com
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org, blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:03:32 -0500
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] prom
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I don't really where to begin or really, how to ask my question.
>>>> So, my friend is taking me to Prom.  He isn't blind but that
>>>> doesn't matter at all.  I'm really excited and looking forward to
>>>> it.  But I don't really know what to expect.  I know you dance
>>>> and hang out with friends (which most of I probably won't know),
>>>> and have a good time.  But I don't know how to dance. ...  So, I
>>>> guess my question is what should I expect? ...  I don't know.  I
>>>> don't go to school dances and I've never been to a prom before.
>>>>
>>>> Winona
>>>>
>>>> trumpetqueenwb at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it.  For
>>>> every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it.  For every love
>>>> there is a heart somewhere to receive it."
>>>> -Ivan Panin
>>>>
>>>> "Success is peace of mind which is the direct result of
>>>> self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best
>>>> you are capable of becoming." - John Wooden
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie McG
>>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>>> Eyes for the Blind
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>> life."
>>> John 3:16
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