[nabs-l] Astronomy Books was Re: a question about science and tutoring

Sat Mar 17 00:13:44 UTC 2012

Yes, but nonetheless, they are different.

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From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
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> Didn't the same person produce both books?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 3/16/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Which one did you find, Touch the Universe or Touch the Stars II? They 
>> are
>> very different.
>>
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>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:26 PM
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>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Yes; its by Noreen Grice and I found the book. Its published by national
>>> braille press.
>>> If you are curious about stars or you are in a class such as astronomy
>>> that requires this knowledge, I recommend it. It even gives you 
>>> directions
>>>
>>> as to how to explore the diagram. It says stuff like"the big dipper is 
>>> the
>>>
>>> shape of a drinking gourd. Trace your fingers around the top part and 
>>> feel
>>>
>>> the three stars up top."
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:58 PM
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>>>
>>> Thanks, Ashley! I think you are referring to the series of books
>>> by Noreen Grice.  I have "Touch the Universe," and I believe it
>>> was from NBP.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> Email and Google Talk/Keychat (on the BrailleNote) ID:
>>> dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> Skype: christpher.nusbaum3 or search for Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>>> nuisance."
>>> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:25:23 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Geometry and astronomy are interesting.  Geometry has some real
>>> world problem
>>> solving applications.
>>> I didn't like it but somehow got through it.  I'm not an abstract
>>> thinker.
>>> I remember how you compare shapes and figure out the missing
>>> angle number
>>> and things like that.  The problem solving and critical thinking
>>> skills carry
>>> over to other subjects though.
>>>
>>> For astronomy, well I did not take that in high school; Virginia
>>> doesn't
>>> require that; we take different sciences.
>>>
>>> But I suggest getting tactile diagrams of the stars and galaxies.
>>> I think
>>> NASA or National braille press has some books.  One is called
>>> Touch the
>>> stars.
>>> I think if your vi teacher explains diagrams and what the lines
>>> represent
>>> and labels them, it will make more sense.
>>> Some concepts though are better illustrated in a 3 d thing; so
>>> you could
>>> make a model for those situations.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:17 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring
>>>
>>> Oh good; I'm not the only one who doesn't get anything out of
>>> tactile graphics, especially the 1st or 2nd time I look at them!
>>> I really don't like tactile graphics, and try to avoid them if
>>> possible.  But we're doing geometry in math and astronomy in
>>> science, both of which are very visual units which require a lot
>>> of tactile graphics.  However, I might get a break from the
>>> constant
>>> diagrams in science, as we're switching to geology to get ready
>>> for our state standardized test, the Maryland School Assessment
>>> (MSA.)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>> Email and Google Talk/Keychat (on the BrailleNote) ID:
>>> dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>> Skype: christpher.nusbaum3 or search for Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>>> nuisance."
>>> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
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>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:55:35 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring
>>>
>>> Hi Vejas,
>>> I'm not very good spatially either, and I usually didn't get much
>>> out
>>> of tactile diagrams.  I do think attempting to understand tactile
>>> diagrams is a good way to try to improve your spatial skills.
>>> But if
>>> you don't find them useful for learning the concepts, then see if
>>> you
>>> can get verbal descriptions instead.  I also found in my
>>> experience
>>> that knowing what things look like (like the shape of cells etc.)
>>> is
>>> not super-important for understanding the functional concepts you
>>> are
>>> learning about.
>>> You could talk to your guidance counselor to find out if there is
>>> any
>>> free tutoring available at your school.  I'm sure you are not the
>>> only
>>> student having difficulty following science concepts.  If your
>>> school
>>> has an honor society for seniors, some of their members might be
>>> available to tutor you for free or for a small fee if your
>>> parents are
>>> willing and able to pay them.  I tutored a few chem students when
>>> I was
>>> in high school.
>>> A good tutor (sighted or blind) should be able to figure out how
>>> to
>>> best explain the ideas to you.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 3/8/12, vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm just not very good spacially.  Also some of the diagrams
>>> have
>>> lots of abbreviations and I find myself looking at the key a
>>> lot,
>>> so it's tricky to study the diagram when you're not sure what it
>>> stands for.
>>> But next science chapter, I'm going to pay lots more attention
>>> to
>>> the diagrams.
>>> Vejas
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
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>>> Date sent: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:52:15 -0800
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>>>
>>> Some diagrams can help and others don't.  If a diagram is too
>>> cluttered, then
>>> it is no good.  Can you explain more about why diagrams don't
>>> help you?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "vejas" <brlsurfer at gmail.com
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:14 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>  I'm having some trouble in science.  It's biology and genetics.
>>> My
>>>  teacher is OK, I guess.
>>>  Does it help you to look at diagrams? Usually it doesn't help
>>> me, so I
>>>  don't bother to look at them because when I have, they have not
>>> helped.
>>>  Have diagrams ever helped you, because my science teachers
>>> loves
>>> the way
>>>  diagrams explain stuff? Have you ever needed tutoring? How was
>>> a
>>> sighter
>>>  person able to help you, because it's sometimes hard to explain
>>> stuff you
>>>  need? I have a test tomorrow.
>>>  Thanks for any input.
>>>  Vejas
>>>
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