[nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring

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Nicole,
I have touch the stars. What is touch the universe about?

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From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:56 PM
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Which one did you find, Touch the Universe or Touch the Stars II? They are
very different.

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From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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> Chris,
> Yes; its by Noreen Grice and I found the book. Its published by national 
> braille press.
> If you are curious about stars or you are in a class such as astronomy 
> that requires this knowledge, I recommend it. It even gives you directions 
> as to how to explore the diagram. It says stuff like"the big dipper is the 
> shape of a drinking gourd. Trace your fingers around the top part and feel 
> the three stars up top."
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:58 PM
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>
> Thanks, Ashley! I think you are referring to the series of books
> by Noreen Grice.  I have "Touch the Universe," and I believe it
> was from NBP.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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> Date sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:25:23 -0400
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>
> Chris,
> Geometry and astronomy are interesting.  Geometry has some real
> world problem
> solving applications.
> I didn't like it but somehow got through it.  I'm not an abstract
> thinker.
> I remember how you compare shapes and figure out the missing
> angle number
> and things like that.  The problem solving and critical thinking
> skills carry
> over to other subjects though.
>
> For astronomy, well I did not take that in high school; Virginia
> doesn't
> require that; we take different sciences.
>
> But I suggest getting tactile diagrams of the stars and galaxies.
> I think
> NASA or National braille press has some books.  One is called
> Touch the
> stars.
> I think if your vi teacher explains diagrams and what the lines
> represent
> and labels them, it will make more sense.
> Some concepts though are better illustrated in a 3 d thing; so
> you could
> make a model for those situations.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:17 PM
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>
> Oh good; I'm not the only one who doesn't get anything out of
> tactile graphics, especially the 1st or 2nd time I look at them!
> I really don't like tactile graphics, and try to avoid them if
> possible.  But we're doing geometry in math and astronomy in
> science, both of which are very visual units which require a lot
> of tactile graphics.  However, I might get a break from the
> constant
> diagrams in science, as we're switching to geology to get ready
> for our state standardized test, the Maryland School Assessment
> (MSA.)
>
> Chris
> Chris Nusbaum
> Email and Google Talk/Keychat (on the BrailleNote) ID:
> dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> Skype: christpher.nusbaum3 or search for Chris Nusbaum
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:55:35 -0700
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>
> Hi Vejas,
> I'm not very good spatially either, and I usually didn't get much
> out
> of tactile diagrams.  I do think attempting to understand tactile
> diagrams is a good way to try to improve your spatial skills.
> But if
> you don't find them useful for learning the concepts, then see if
> you
> can get verbal descriptions instead.  I also found in my
> experience
> that knowing what things look like (like the shape of cells etc.)
> is
> not super-important for understanding the functional concepts you
> are
> learning about.
> You could talk to your guidance counselor to find out if there is
> any
> free tutoring available at your school.  I'm sure you are not the
> only
> student having difficulty following science concepts.  If your
> school
> has an honor society for seniors, some of their members might be
> available to tutor you for free or for a small fee if your
> parents are
> willing and able to pay them.  I tutored a few chem students when
> I was
> in high school.
> A good tutor (sighted or blind) should be able to figure out how
> to
> best explain the ideas to you.
> Arielle
>
> On 3/8/12, vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm just not very good spacially.  Also some of the diagrams
> have
> lots of abbreviations and I find myself looking at the key a
> lot,
> so it's tricky to study the diagram when you're not sure what it
> stands for.
> But next science chapter, I'm going to pay lots more attention
> to
> the diagrams.
> Vejas
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
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> Date sent: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:52:15 -0800
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>
> Some diagrams can help and others don't.  If a diagram is too
> cluttered, then
> it is no good.  Can you explain more about why diagrams don't
> help you?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "vejas" <brlsurfer at gmail.com
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:14 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] a question about science and tutoring
>
>
>  Hi,
>  I'm having some trouble in science.  It's biology and genetics.
> My
>  teacher is OK, I guess.
>  Does it help you to look at diagrams? Usually it doesn't help
> me, so I
>  don't bother to look at them because when I have, they have not
> helped.
>  Have diagrams ever helped you, because my science teachers
> loves
> the way
>  diagrams explain stuff? Have you ever needed tutoring? How was
> a
> sighter
>  person able to help you, because it's sometimes hard to explain
> stuff you
>  need? I have a test tomorrow.
>  Thanks for any input.
>  Vejas
>
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