[nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Fri Mar 23 02:05:49 UTC 2012


Consiter my case. I'm blind and my girlfriend is deaf Plus she has CP. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision


I'm gonna way in on this topic.
My fiancee is actually sited and I'm blind, she's been around blind people
growing up, so she's very much accustomed to dating a blind person.
We've met in person twice and it's been great.
Take care,
Doug

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From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision


Hello all,
Like some of the people who have posted already, I have had my own
experiences with dating, as well as simply meeting people online. As a
matter of fact, my current boyfriend is someone I met online, and he
is blind as well. We have been dating a little over a year now, and I
have also had the chance to meet him in person. I can say that some of
what we've been through, especially when we met, was both good and
bad, and even though he is blind, it was a little more disastrous
because of his family who are sighted. Well the first time we actually
got to "see" each other was through a webcam, and both families were
present, not only for discriptive purposes but also because of us
being long distance, and it was the only way the two families could
meet. About 6 months later I got to visit him in person, and that was
a little weird because he lives in another country, and a part of
another culture, and that in itself brings its own barriers. I
actually stayed at his house with his family, and I imagine it was
hard on them because they've never dealt with another blind person
besides him, and he is not as independent as I am. I have also met
sighted people online, but I did not meet them through dating sites. I
met them through pages we both visit, (blogs, etc), and in my opinion,
that's better because you're actually meeting people you have things
in common with, regardless of whether you date or not, and like most
people have said already, one of the main things to consider when
dating someone, blind or sighted, is what kinds of things you share in
common with the other person. I personally have never dated a sighted
person, but I have made some interesting friends online who are
sighted. Some know I'm blind, and some do not, but not because I
haven't wanted to tell them. I don't meet these people in person
mainly because most of them are not from the U.S. and therefore it
really hasn't come up. Besides, I'm not as close to them, and we
mainly talk about music, which is what i have in common with most of
these people I meet anyway. I have also met blind friends online, and
basically the same goes for them. So as most people have already said,
I don't think it's that much different dating a sighted person from a
blind person. A blind person might be a little more understanding
considering they go through some of the same things. But on the other
side, that may not always be the case, if the person isn't completely
adjusted to their blindness, or they have been with their family their
entire life, and don't really understand the independence issue such
as in my case. So I think dating both blind and sighted people can
have their ups and downs, and it's just a matter of knowing how to
handle each situation as it comes. Good luck.


On 3/22/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a little experience with online dating, but not much. I was on
> a dating site for a year or so and chatted with a few guys but didn't
> find anyone I actually wanted to meet in person. I have a lot of
> friends (sighted and blind) who do online dating and I've heard the
> whole gamut, from happily-ever-after marriages to disastrous first
> dates and a few people who walked away after my friend's blindness was
> revealed online. It really doesn't hurt to try it. If you do find
> someone you like and want to meet, it's best to meet them in a public
> place. But there's nothing dangerous about just putting a profile up
> and seeing what happens.
> Some dating sites are free and others charge a fee for joining.
> Interestingly, the site I used was free, and when I was visiting my
> sister and her roommate they were checking out one of the paid sites.
> I told them about the free site I was on and they looked at it and
> said they thought the guys on the free site were a lot more attractive
> and appealing than the guys on the paid one. So it's possible the
> people you might meet on a free site are less "desperate" and hence
> are better catches.
> I'm sure there's a lot of debate about when to reveal blindness during
> an online dating encounter. Some people put it in their profiles,
> others wait until the first meeting and still others reveal it at some
> point in the middle. I'd tend to treat it like a job interview and
> reveal blindness after I've connected with someone online but before
> we meet in person so they aren't totally shocked or freaked out when
> they see me. Unfortunately rejections due to blindness can happen at
> any point in the process. You'll have to decide whether you would
> prefer to take that risk earlier on or to give them a chance to get to
> know you before they learn about your blindness.
> Regarding dating blind vs. sighted people: Like many of us I have done
> both. I never consciously decided that I wanted to date a blind person
> or a sighted person, and I would not recommend that line of thinking.
> I simply dated guys with whom I felt a connection and who felt the
> same way toward me, regardless of whether or not they were blind. I
> will say that in some ways establishing the initial relationship was
> easier with blind guys, because I didn't have to wonder about what
> nonverbal signals they were sending or how they might interpret my
> nonverbal signals. However, when I try to compare the relationship I
> have had with my sighted boyfriend over the past three years with the
> other relationships I have had with blind guys, I really can't think
> of any major differences. I do think that regardless of blindness
> status, it's important for you and your partner to share interests and
> passions in common. NFB and blindness are passions that many of us
> share, and they help bring many blind couples together. However, there
> are other interests or passions you may share with sighted folks
> around you, and finding a partner who shares one of those passions
> with you can be similarly rewarding. In other words, instead of
> deciding who to date based on whether they are sighted or blind, I
> think it's more helpful to choose based on how much you share in
> common with them. I know that for us blind folks it can be hard to
> meet and connect with people at bars or large gatherings like singles'
> parties. But if you can find communities of people that share your
> interests-whether that be your local NFB chapter or student division,
> classes, church groups or clubs you might be in-that's a much better
> way to build lasting connections.
> Arielle
>
> On 3/22/12, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oops, I missed a point: I wouldn't go to an NFB convention simply for
>> the dating scene. I'm sure relationships do develop at things like
>> that, however most people are going to be preoccupied with general
>> sessions, exhibits, orientation around a huge massive hotel, etc etc
>> to really pay attention to who's around them for dating.
>>
>> Later.
>>
>> On 22.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Robin,
>>>
>>> Or you could just go ahead and do the online dating thing and learn
>>> from it. It has turned out well for some, and not so well for others.
>>> As for the sighted vs. blind thing, I would ask what you want. Not
>>> dating a blind person simply because you think you'll look cool and
>>> more independent for dating a sighted person will limit your options,
>>> just like not dating a sighted person because you're afraid of being
>>> rejected is crazy as well. We're all individuals. Many blind people
>>> have underlying disabilities, some may not be adjusted to their
>>> blindness completely, etc etc but you wouldn't have to necessarily
>>> feel self-conscious about the blindness issues, your appearance, etc
>>> etc. Sighted people in my experience are going to ask many questions.
>>> Especially at first, you'll probably have to do a whole lot more
>>> educating than dating, and it might get annoying, but many are willing
>>> to learn and it could work out. As for good dating sites ... why not
>>> just getting onto the social networks like Facebook and put your
>>> status as single? Maybe attend some of the singles conferences that
>>> are out there? And if someone interests you, then go after them
>>> (whether online or not).
>>>
>>> Anyway, talk to you later and peace. May you have much luck with your
>>> dating search.
>>>
>>> Nimer J
>>>
>>> On 22.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>> Also, it has been proven, that there are people on chat sites, that
>>>> pretend to be something, to get your attention, and then when you meet
>>>> them, they're a criminal.
>>>> Be careful, and meet people one on one, and in person.
>>>> Come to the NFB convention, and you might meet someone, and oh yes,
>>>> there are sighted members in the NFB, as well!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have never gone on to any of the online dating sites, but I would be
>>>>> very
>>>>> careful because a person online is not as friendly or charming as they
>>>>> appear to be over emails. I have dated very few blind people and find
>>>>> that
>>>>> there is always a focus on blindness in the relationship and I feel
>>>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>> a negative thing at times because we all live with blindness on a 
>>>>> daily
>>>>> basis and want to know we are more than our blindness. I have found
>>>>> there
>>>>> are a lot of people open to dating a blind person expecially when they
>>>>> are
>>>>> confident and out going. I have been in a relationship with a sited
>>>>> person
>>>>> for 3 years and things are wonderful.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Robin" <robinmel71 at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:47 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello to everyone,
>>>>>> I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with online
>>>>>> dating
>>>>>> and if so what sites would you recommend? What experiences have you
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> with dating sighted people vs dating blind people? I look forward to
>>>>>> hearing your stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>>>>>> breeze
>>>>>>
>>>>>> among flowers.
>>>>>> Hellen Keller
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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