[nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision

Sun Mar 25 14:11:38 UTC 2012

I agree with both statements, yes the muturity level is down for alot
of teenagers, but it still can be fun to have thoughs like 5 month
deels, but i totaly agree, wait untill i get in to college

On 3/25/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see anything wrong with dating during high school. It was fun!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Brian Hatgelakas
> <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> @Jeff my advice to you is wait until college to start dating. I did this
>> and am very happy I did.    By doing this the women by the time you enter
>> college will be much more mature and accepting of your blindness
>> situation. Right now as a teenager make friends and don't get caught up in
>> something you know won't last.  Because at your age its mostly figuring
>> out who you are and that's the same for girls.  Good luck in your studies
>> and don't worry as you get older your chance to date will be hear before
>> you know it.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeff crouch" <jeffanel at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>
>>
>>> ah, it must be nice being of legal age, but i am 15, and I would like
>>> to be in a releasonship, but the practicablity of this happening is
>>> slim, with school, and extra crickler activatives things would not
>>> really work out, but as i said, it would be nice.
>>>
>>> in a onist way of putting it, from a adault point of view, it would be
>>> pointless for me to get in a releationship because it is just over
>>> reactive hormons that would get in the way and then after a wile
>>> things would simmer down, and hear that person go's, on the hunt
>>> again.
>>>
>>> this is my point of view
>>>
>>> but i think you would have good luck in the online dating world, but
>>> as one of the posters said, becareful, i know from experence, my
>>> friend did that online stuff, and then well to putt it i have not seen
>>> her for quite some years, she went missing, so be careful
>>>
>>> don't mean to sound like a dad, lol
>>>
>>> every one have a good day, and if anyone needs to contact me, you can
>>> email me at
>>> jeffanel at gmail.com
>>> or
>>> kd8qiq at arrl.net
>>>
>>> with love and respect
>>> Jeff Crouch
>>>
>>> On 3/24/12, Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello doug,
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials with you and mellissa. I'm
>>>> sooo
>>>> happy for the both of you! Here's wishing you both good health and
>>>> happiness.
>>>>
>>>> Take care and, I will talk to you soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hugs,
>>>> amy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Doug Oliver
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:05 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>
>>>> we are.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug, good luck with your fiancee.  I hope the two of you are
>>>> still working.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:54:51 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna way in on this topic.
>>>> My fiancee is actually sited and I'm blind, she's been around
>>>> blind people
>>>> growing up, so she's very much accustomed to dating a blind
>>>> person.
>>>> We've met in person twice and it's been great.
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> Like some of the people who have posted already, I have had my
>>>> own
>>>> experiences with dating, as well as simply meeting people online.
>>>> As a
>>>> matter of fact, my current boyfriend is someone I met online, and
>>>> he
>>>> is blind as well. We have been dating a little over a year now,
>>>> and I
>>>> have also had the chance to meet him in person. I can say that
>>>> some of
>>>> what we've been through, especially when we met, was both good
>>>> and
>>>> bad, and even though he is blind, it was a little more disastrous
>>>> because of his family who are sighted. Well the first time we
>>>> actually
>>>> got to "see" each other was through a webcam, and both families
>>>> were
>>>> present, not only for descriptive purposes but also because of us
>>>> being long distance, and it was the only way the two families
>>>> could
>>>> meet. About 6 months later I got to visit him in person, and that
>>>> was
>>>> a little weird because he lives in another country, and a part of
>>>> another culture, and that in itself brings its own barriers. I
>>>> actually stayed at his house with his family, and I imagine it
>>>> was
>>>> hard on them because they've never dealt with another blind
>>>> person
>>>> besides him, and he is not as independent as I am. I have also
>>>> met
>>>> sighted people online, but I did not meet them through dating
>>>> sites. I
>>>> met them through pages we both visit, (blogs, etc), and in my
>>>> opinion,
>>>> that's better because you're actually meeting people you have
>>>> things
>>>> in common with, regardless of whether you date or not, and like
>>>> most
>>>> people have said already, one of the main things to consider when
>>>> dating someone, blind or sighted, is what kinds of things you
>>>> share in
>>>> common with the other person. I personally have never dated a
>>>> sighted
>>>> person, but I have made some interesting friends online who are
>>>> sighted. Some know I'm blind, and some do not, but not because I
>>>> haven't wanted to tell them. I don't meet these people in person
>>>> mainly because most of them are not from the U.S. and therefore
>>>> it
>>>> really hasn't come up. Besides, I'm not as close to them, and we
>>>> mainly talk about music, which is what i have in common with most
>>>> of
>>>> these people I meet anyway. I have also met blind friends online,
>>>> and
>>>> basically the same goes for them. So as most people have already
>>>> said,
>>>> I don't think it's that much different dating a sighted person
>>>> from a
>>>> blind person. A blind person might be a little more understanding
>>>> considering they go through some of the same things. But on the
>>>> other
>>>> side, that may not always be the case, if the person isn't
>>>> completely
>>>> adjusted to their blindness, or they have been with their family
>>>> their
>>>> entire life, and don't really understand the independence issue
>>>> such
>>>> as in my case. So I think dating both blind and sighted people
>>>> can
>>>> have their ups and downs, and it's just a matter of knowing how
>>>> to
>>>> handle each situation as it comes. Good luck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I have a little experience with online dating, but not much. I
>>>> was on
>>>> a dating site for a year or so and chatted with a few guys but
>>>> didn't
>>>> find anyone I actually wanted to meet in person. I have a lot of
>>>> friends (sighted and blind) who do online dating and I've heard
>>>> the
>>>> whole gamut, from happily-ever-after marriages to disastrous
>>>> first
>>>> dates and a few people who walked away after my friend's
>>>> blindness was
>>>> revealed online. It really doesn't hurt to try it. If you do
>>>> find
>>>> someone you like and want to meet, it's best to meet them in a
>>>> public
>>>> place. But there's nothing dangerous about just putting a
>>>> profile up
>>>> and seeing what happens.
>>>> Some dating sites are free and others charge a fee for joining.
>>>> Interestingly, the site I used was free, and when I was visiting
>>>> my
>>>> sister and her roommate they were checking out one of the paid
>>>> sites.
>>>> I told them about the free site I was on and they looked at it
>>>> and
>>>> said they thought the guys on the free site were a lot more
>>>> attractive
>>>> and appealing than the guys on the paid one. So it's possible
>>>> the
>>>> people you might meet on a free site are less "desperate" and
>>>> hence
>>>> are better catches.
>>>> I'm sure there's a lot of debate about when to reveal blindness
>>>> during
>>>> an online dating encounter. Some people put it in their
>>>> profiles,
>>>> others wait until the first meeting and still others reveal it
>>>> at some
>>>> point in the middle. I'd tend to treat it like a job interview
>>>> and
>>>> reveal blindness after I've connected with someone online but
>>>> before
>>>> we meet in person so they aren't totally shocked or freaked out
>>>> when
>>>> they see me. Unfortunately rejections due to blindness can
>>>> happen at
>>>> any point in the process. You'll have to decide whether you
>>>> would
>>>> prefer to take that risk earlier on or to give them a chance to
>>>> get to
>>>> know you before they learn about your blindness.
>>>> Regarding dating blind vs. sighted people: Like many of us I
>>>> have done
>>>> both. I never consciously decided that I wanted to date a blind
>>>> person
>>>> or a sighted person, and I would not recommend that line of
>>>> thinking.
>>>> I simply dated guys with whom I felt a connection and who felt
>>>> the
>>>> same way toward me, regardless of whether or not they were
>>>> blind. I
>>>> will say that in some ways establishing the initial relationship
>>>> was
>>>> easier with blind guys, because I didn't have to wonder about
>>>> what
>>>> nonverbal signals they were sending or how they might interpret
>>>> my
>>>> nonverbal signals. However, when I try to compare the
>>>> relationship I
>>>> have had with my sighted boyfriend over the past three years
>>>> with the
>>>> other relationships I have had with blind guys, I really can't
>>>> think
>>>> of any major differences. I do think that regardless of
>>>> blindness
>>>> status, it's important for you and your partner to share
>>>> interests and
>>>> passions in common. NFB and blindness are passions that many of
>>>> us
>>>> share, and they help bring many blind couples together. However,
>>>> there
>>>> are other interests or passions you may share with sighted folks
>>>> around you, and finding a partner who shares one of those
>>>> passions
>>>> with you can be similarly rewarding. In other words, instead of
>>>> deciding who to date based on whether they are sighted or blind,
>>>> I
>>>> think it's more helpful to choose based on how much you share in
>>>> common with them. I know that for us blind folks it can be hard
>>>> to
>>>> meet and connect with people at bars or large gatherings like
>>>> singles'
>>>> parties. But if you can find communities of people that share
>>>> your
>>>> interests-whether that be your local NFB chapter or student
>>>> division,
>>>> classes, church groups or clubs you might be in-that's a much
>>>> better
>>>> way to build lasting connections.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/12, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Oops, I missed a point: I wouldn't go to an NFB convention
>>>> simply for
>>>> the dating scene. I'm sure relationships do develop at things
>>>> like
>>>> that, however most people are going to be preoccupied with
>>>> general
>>>> sessions, exhibits, orientation around a huge massive hotel, etc
>>>> etc
>>>> to really pay attention to who's around them for dating.
>>>>
>>>> Later.
>>>>
>>>> On 22.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, ICł <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello Robin,
>>>>
>>>> Or you could just go ahead and do the online dating thing and
>>>> learn
>>>> from it. It has turned out well for some, and not so well for
>>>> others.
>>>> As for the sighted vs. blind thing, I would ask what you want.
>>>> Not
>>>> dating a blind person simply because you think you'll look cool
>>>> and
>>>> more independent for dating a sighted person will limit your
>>>> options,
>>>> just like not dating a sighted person because you're afraid of
>>>> being
>>>> rejected is crazy as well. We're all individuals. Many blind
>>>> people
>>>> have underlying disabilities, some may not be adjusted to their
>>>> blindness completely, etc but you wouldn't have to
>>>> necessarily
>>>> feel self-conscious about the blindness issues, your appearance,
>>>> etc
>>>> etc. Sighted people in my experience are going to ask many
>>>> questions.
>>>> Especially at first, you'll probably have to do a whole lot more
>>>> educating than dating, and it might get annoying, but many are
>>>> willing
>>>> to learn and it could work out. As for good dating sites ... why
>>>> not
>>>> just getting onto the social networks like Facebook and put your
>>>> status as single? Maybe attend some of the singles conferences
>>>> that
>>>> are out there? And if someone interests you, then go after them
>>>> (whether online or not).
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, talk to you later and peace. May you have much luck with
>>>> your
>>>> dating search.
>>>>
>>>> Nimer J
>>>>
>>>> On 22.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Also, it has been proven, that there are people on chat sites,
>>>> that
>>>> pretend to be something, to get your attention, and then when
>>>> you meet
>>>> them, they're a criminal.
>>>> Be careful, and meet people one on one, and in person.
>>>> Come to the NFB convention, and you might meet someone, and oh
>>>> yes,
>>>> there are sighted members in the NFB, as well!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have never gone on to any of the online dating sites, but I
>>>> would be
>>>> very
>>>> careful because a person online is not as friendly or charming
>>>> as they
>>>> appear to be over emails. I have dated very few blind people and
>>>> find
>>>> that
>>>> there is always a focus on blindness in the relationship and I
>>>> feel
>>>> that
>>>> is
>>>> a negative thing at times because we all live with blindness on
>>>> a
>>>> daily
>>>> basis and want to know we are more than our blindness. I have
>>>> found
>>>> there
>>>> are a lot of people open to dating a blind person especially
>>>> when they
>>>> are
>>>> confident and out going. I have been in a relationship with a
>>>> sited
>>>> person
>>>> for 3 years and things are wonderful.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Robin" <robinmel71 at earthlink.net
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:47 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Dating & Sighted-Blind-Low Vision
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello to everyone,
>>>> I am just wondering if anyone has had any experience with online
>>>> dating
>>>> and if so what sites would you recommend? What experiences have
>>>> you
>>>> had
>>>> with dating sighted people vs dating blind people? I look
>>>> forward to
>>>> hearing your stories.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
>>>> Perhaps
>>>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
>>>> like a
>>>> breeze
>>>>
>>>> among flowers.
>>>> Hellen Keller
>>>>
>>>>
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