[nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology

Brian Hatgelakas brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
Mon Mar 26 21:04:59 UTC 2012 

I thought that LWSB didn't train people on daily living skills.  That's what 
I said!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
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Dear Brian,
What are you refering to when you talk about the CCB job training program?
Sincerely,
Nathan

On 3/26/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
> I wasn't aware that LWSB offered programs similar to the Carol Center's 
> and
> Colorado Center's!  I was always under the impression that it was solely a
> job training center AKA an ITT tech or a Western School Of Health And
> business!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:49 AM
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>> Brian,
>> it’s a training center that provides independent living and job training.
>> They provide training in help desk support and other I T stuff.
>> It’s a training facility,  not a job placement agency. so, it will not
>> gaurantee employment.
>> I say let the programs run. If you don't like it, don't go there, but 
>> they
>>
>> must  be helping some people improve their lives.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian Hatgelakas
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:25 AM
>> To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind Students 
>> mailing
>>
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>
>> If no employment is provided why not terminate all programs accept the 
>> IRS
>> program?  My question is how much money is being wasted by state agencies
>> on
>> useless programs at this center?  I believe someone needs to do an
>> investigative article on this topic.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nimer M. Jaber, IC³" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Careers in assistive technology
>>
>>
>> Joshua,
>>
>> The only programs that will hire directly from WSB are the IRS
>> programs and they are not directly affiliated with WSB. You can go to
>> any other IRS class and get the same offered position. WSB just
>> happens to be the location of an IRS training sight. The employees
>> that teach those classes work directly for the IRS, and the computer
>> network used is solely for the IRS which makes the IRS classes and WSB
>> two separate entities in my mind. Even if you wish to count the IRS
>> classes as belonging to WSB, they have a bunch of other programs that
>> will not provide employment once a program has been terminated and a
>> client has graduated successfully.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 25.03.2012, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Joshua, she went to Tyler Texas to teach with Jan at the Tyler Light
>>> House.
>>>
>>> Desiree, as part of the ATI program, clients will receive a set amount
>>> of hours (that's not really counted) of practical experience which is
>>> the teaching of students for them that I mentioned, you receive an ic³
>>> certification which is outdated, hardly ever used or heard of, and
>>> mostly is unrelated to assistive technology, and because of my request
>>> that I put forward you now will attempt to pass the Freedom Scientific
>>> JAWS cert which again, isn't worth a whole lot seeing how it places
>>> much of its emphasis on how to access help and where to get training
>>> more than knowing how to most efficiently utilize the functions of the
>>> screen reader. For all of this, the training supposedly takes nine
>>> months although I finished up in under four. This was the old program.
>>> Now, the new instructor has been incorporating lessons on teaching
>>> modalities, eye conditions, making equipment recommendations and
>>> communicating with state Rehab counselors, etc etc. You don't receive
>>> a certification in any of this, unless you call a little piece of
>>> paper and a pin from WSB telling you good job and that you graduated
>>> to be a certification. This is why I don't consider WSB to be a
>>> school. Technically I'm sure they have to have some accreditation or
>>> other to provide the services that they do, but I'm sure that if they
>>> are meeting the standards for it, they're barely doing so. And
>>> sanitation issues in their buildings are pretty bad. They have an
>>> antiquated heating and cooling system that can not be switched from
>>> heat to AC quickly meaning that they will only make the switch twice a
>>> year, there are many bugs and some of the food provided is
>>> unrecognizable, although when boar members are present they do a half
>>> decent job.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 25.03.2012, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> So, if it's not a school, does that mean the accreditation is
>>>> worthless? I'm just trying to understand that part of it. I wouldn't
>>>> attend there, because I've heard some disturbing stories, to put it
>>>> lightly, about sanitation issues in the dorms.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/25/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I attended there, under the influence of my VR counselor.
>>>>> What a mistake!
>>>>> I wanted to get in their AT program, but it was too full.
>>>>> They have an awesome ATI, (Assistive Technology Instructor,) program,
>>>>> that I would have highly recommended, if they had the instructor, that
>>>>> I had.
>>>>> We called her Ms Z.
>>>>> Anyone remember her?
>>>>> Blessings,Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/12, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LWSB is not a school, and I definitely wouldn't recommend it for
>>>>>> several reasons. First, the program is being modified heavily under
>>>>>> the influence of a new tech instructor they've just hired, so I would
>>>>>> say wait till everything's worked out. Second, there are quite a few
>>>>>> places where mentioning "LWSB" will not land you work because of its
>>>>>> reputation in the past. And, as mentioned, it is not a school which
>>>>>> means that you really can't depend on it for finding any kind of
>>>>>> employment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25.03.2012, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.lwsb.org
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/25/12, Kayla Paige <kayla.mattox at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I have a question. What kind of school would you go to for a
>>>>>>>> career
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> assistive technology? Even though I'm going to school for massage
>>>>>>>> therapy,
>>>>>>>> my other interest is assistive technology. Thanks.
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