[nabs-l] iphone or mac?

Mon May 14 01:37:53 UTC 2012

Hello tony, and all,

Given the pace at which science and technology is progressing these days,
you will see that in the near future, all those things that you mentioned
will be possible to do on a  smartphone such as the iPhone or other I
device. I know this because I am a big believer of the technology world. I
am not a tech profit, nor I am a PH.D. in technology, nor I know that this
will happen for reals. However, pretty much, by the year of 2020, even the
thinnest cellphone, smart or not, will be able to analyze and retrieve the
slickest of databases and let you work with the most powerful spreadsheets,
presentations, documents, and even media, just like a desktop or laptop
computer today. And, note takers will not be behind, or even if they are,
the iPhone with braille display will be the solution, and the hope will
still run about making other devices accessible. Hopefully we'll have better
laws by then regarding blindness and accessibility LOL. Any thoughts?

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Sophie Trist
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:58 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone or mac?

You bring up good points. i am in high school. if i may inquire, what is
your major? because i've never heard ( of many of the things you mentioned.
if it is something techy, i unerstand why a computer is necessary. 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tony Olivero <anthony at olivero.us> wrote:

> Sophie,
> 
> I'm not sure where you are in your educational career (highschool,
> college, post grad, etc.), but based on the things I've had to do at
> one time or another I would be asking yourself if you able to, on the
> Apex:
> 
> * Add headings, font styles, footnotes, running headers and footers,
> page numbers, tables of contents, and properly formatted bibliography
> pages to a research paper;
> * Access research databases including full-text PDF documents (even
> those that are missing OCRed text);
> * Use a spreadsheet or other statistical analysis package to
> manipulate and analyze data;
> * Access web pages using modern technologies such as AJAX (submitting
> forms, and retrieving data without reloading the page), ARIA (adding
> extra accessibility information to make web based applications
> accessible), and dynamic HTML (showing and hiding sections of a web
> page, again without reloading it); and
> * Access any applications that may be required by your chosen course of
study.
> 
> Not knowing what you are planning to do I can't really know for sure
> if the Apex is the only solution that will work, but it has been my
> experience that it is still necessary to have a computer even with a
> notetaking solution to be truely competetive.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 5/13/12, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tony, could you please clarify what you mean when you say
>> intensive productivity? I'm afraid I don't understand exactly
>> what you're trying to say. I have found my apex able to handle
>> all reading, writing, and editing assignments I've had in the
>> past.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tony Olivero <anthony at olivero.us
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 12 May 2012 23:27:39 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] iphone or mac?
>> 
>> Sophie,
>> 
>> In a way, your decision is almost comparing apples to oranges.
>> Your
>> iPhone and Apex are both  portable computing solutions, where a
>> computer (whether you go with a mac or a Windows based system) is
>> a
>> much more powerful package. If you are a student, you are likely
>> to
>> want a platform capable of intensive word processing, data
>> calculation, and access to research databases, just to name a few
>> possibilities. While portable computing platforms have come a
>> long way
>> in the past ten years, they still are not a replacement for the
>> power
>> and functionality you gain with a computer.
>> 
>> It is and will likely remain my belief for some time, necessary
>> to
>> have access to a desktop or notebook computer and use the
>> portable
>> solution (iPhone/BraillNote in your case) for note taking,
>> e-mail, and
>> other things that you need to do while mobile, and continue to
>> use a
>> computer for intensive productivity tasks.
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> On 5/11/12, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
>> depends on what you're after. my first thought was terminal, or
>> an ssh
>> client.
>> apart from that, a larger storage space, and it's faster.
>> I guess if you lumped the bn and iPhone into one ball, you'd
>> have almost the
>> same features of the mac, but maybe i'm forgetting something.
>> oh, not sure if the bn can do ftp either.
>> On May 11, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Sophie Trist wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I currently use a braillenote apex and an iPhone 4S running IOS
>> 5.1. I am
>> debating the issue of whether I should get a Mac, and your input
>> would be
>> very helpufl in this decision, because I know a lot of y'all use
>> a Mac
>> with Voiceover. My main question is, what abilities does a Mac
>> have that
>> an iPhone and braillenote do not have?
>> Yours,
>> Sophie
>> 
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