[nabs-l] vr counselors and job support

Mon May 14 14:59:36 UTC 2012

There isn't a broadcasting school, in Arkansas.
BTW, please send me the Website of the station, that you work for, off list.
Thanks, Joshua

On 5/14/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
> Do what I did go get your BA in broadcast Journalism and Mass
> Communications.  Intern at tons of stations and get college radio
> experience.  You can do it man!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] vr counselors and job support
>
>
> Amen!
> A field that I really wanted to pursue was broadcasting, but I don't
> have the means, to learn the trade!
> I don't have the equipment, or the resources.
> My VR counselor probably wouldn't help me in that endeavor, because
> the station I want to start, will be a Christian station.
> BTW, it gets worse, when you find out my situation!
> I'll start a new thread, going through the history of VR, in Arkansas.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 5/14/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Agreed Josh and that's ashaim why do people go into that field if they
>> don't
>>
>> like helping others then?  If I pursue that degree I would help all my
>> clients as long as they were motivated!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] vr counselors and job support
>>
>>
>> Yeah, but some of them deserve to lose their jobs!
>> Just saying!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 5/13/12, Brian Hatgelakas <brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> These VR Counselors will never experience a "job loss" because their
>>> government jobs have it great!  with benifits good pay and government
>>> holidays off!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] vr counselors and job support
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>> No, this is an employee of the agency; its  a job placement specialist,
>>> not
>>> a center.
>>> My question is what do these people do? From the one blind client I
>>> spoke
>>> with, he said the specialist didn't do much of anything but told him to
>>> look
>>> online for job ads.
>>> I'll revise my sentence  from my first email.
>>>
>>> After  I just told her I looked and few entry level jobs there and to
>>> put
>>> down an internship where my foot will be in the door in the government
>>> that
>>> may lead somewhere is insulting.
>>> Not clear here what insulted me.
>>>
>>> After I just told her I looked and found few entry level jobs I
>>> qualified
>>> for, I told her I  had an internship coming where I could get my foot in
>>> the
>>> door in the government and this internship may lead to more permanent
>>> work,
>>> her comment about finding a real job insulted me.
>>>
>>> I'll add its like all she cares about getting clients jobs, not good
>>> careers, to heck with what they want to do, just get them jobs and close
>>> their cases.
>>> Not a good attitude.  Also, many college grads are doing just what I
>>> am--
>>> getting internships to hopefully lead to full time work. There was an
>>> article in the New york times about this.  Inexperienced young people
>>> cannot
>>> find work.  What world do vr counselors live in?
>>> Well not the real world where people are struggling and worried about
>>> lay
>>> off and people are losing homes or working three part time jobs to pay
>>> for
>>> the essentials of life.
>>> I'm trying to say its tough for anyone, and being
>>> blind makes it a little harder. A vr counselor should support you by
>>> giving
>>> you the skills to look for work and help you network, not throwing you
>>> to
>>> some so called specialist who probably just finds any job and if you
>>> take
>>> it
>>> they can close your case. No, I'll be bold and stand up to them and go
>>> for
>>> the job that fits my skills.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:22 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] vr counselors and job support
>>>
>>> LWSB was a job placement center.
>>> You'd go, and they'd train you for the IRS programs.
>>> If you work with VR, you'll know, they'll try to send you to LWSB, or
>>> a center like it!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 5/13/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Well, I couldn’t think of a good subject line for this complex issue.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll say that I graduated in 2009 with a general BA degree in liberal
>>>> studies; kind of where you make your won program to complete a degree;
>>>> I
>>>> picked  my concentrations of social sciences and communication. Then
>>>> after
>>>> some training at our state center, I pursued a writing certificate at
>>>> Nova,
>>>> northern Virginia community college.  I’m finishing that next semester.
>>>> I
>>>> wanted to add more to my resume and take classes specific to writing,
>>>> so
>>>> this was a good investment for me.  My career goal is broad; in this
>>>> economy
>>>> you cannot be too picky, whether you are blind or not.
>>>> I desire to work in something to help people. I’m thinking outreach,
>>>> communication, customer service, or development.  I want to work with a
>>>> team
>>>> of people in an office.
>>>>
>>>> That is some background.  Now as we all know getting a job is tough
>>>> with
>>>> the
>>>> down economy and most jobs are gotten via networking anyway.
>>>> I networked via a disability mentoring day for customs and border
>>>> patrol;
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> was refered for a unpaid internship in section 508 compliance after
>>>> following up with the disability program manager. I intend to get this
>>>> internship once going through their rigorrous background check.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I’m frustrated with my vr counselor.  I tell her I’m looking for
>>>> work
>>>> and explain barriers like lack of experience; visual tasks in entry
>>>> level
>>>> jobs that include filing, sorting mail, data entry etc, etc.
>>>> She schedules a meeting with me to talk over my case and I wonder if
>>>> she
>>>> is
>>>> forcing a service on me for which it will do no good.
>>>>
>>>> I then tell her about my internship to end the call. “well, you are
>>>> good
>>>> at
>>>> finding internships, but lets look for a real job.” How insulting!
>>>> After
>>>> I
>>>> just told her I looked and few entry level jobs there and to put down
>>>> an
>>>> internship where my foot will be in the door in the government  that
>>>> may
>>>> lead somewhere is insulting.
>>>>
>>>> Have anyone of you worked with or  known people who worked with job
>>>> placement specialists?  This counselor wants to refer me
>>>> to one. I am skeptical he can help me unless he actually takes me out
>>>> to
>>>> go
>>>> in person to employers, its called cold calls. I asked her what he’d do
>>>> for
>>>> me and she was real vague.
>>>> “He’ll send you job leads.” she said.  She said something about job
>>>> announcements.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll get more info in the meeting. But I just am not sure I should work
>>>> with
>>>> him. I mean it sounds on the surface like a waste of time.  I’d rather
>>>> have
>>>> vr work with me on things like a good cover letter, interview skills,
>>>> professional dos and don’ts, stuff like that. So, I’m wondering if any
>>>> of
>>>> you had this service and how it went.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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