[nabs-l] Have You Researched or Attended Colorado Schools or the University of Phoenix?

Brandon Keith Biggs brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
Sat Nov 3 19:14:45 UTC 2012


Hello,
I'm sorry, I was talking about CA, I didn't read the subject line! We have 
UCs and CSUs, so it through me off...
I'm sorry, but still, the justification reasons are what I would use.
The idea behind Department of rehabilitation is not what will serve your 
career goals best, but what school will get you into the work force the 
cheapest. They don't look at employment rates out of colleges, but just the 
price. (That is what they did with me). I wanted to go to a private school 
and I was told CSU tuition or nothing, even though the private school was 45 
grand a year. I didn't get excepted there, but a blind friend who is there 
told me he gets the 7 grand a year that he would get if he was CSUs.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- 
From: Arielle Silverman
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:24 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Have You Researched or Attended Colorado Schools or 
the University of Phoenix?

Hi Brandon,
I think you and Everett are talking about different places. Everett
asked about Colorado State University (CSU). Brandon, are you
referring to that CSU or the one in California? Since we don't have a
Prop 30 on our ballot here in CO, I think you may be referring to the
one in CA.
I personally think that arguments about which school is best should
relate to what is best for your career goals. What are you ultimately
hoping to get your degree in and what do you plan to do with that
degree? You want to show that whatever school you select will help you
to earn a degree that will ultimately allow you to become employed. If
you have family duties, or a part-time job or internship now, you can
say that the part-time online classes will best accommodate your other
career and family needs. However, I would recommend picking the school
with the best program, not the one with the easiest program.
I personally believe that all schools are about the same in terms of
accessibility. Some schools provide more direct support services than
others, but a blind student can be very successful at a school without
formal disability services, and a school with formal disability
services may be spread so thin that it cannot provide good and
consistent accommodations to every student all the time. There are
national services, such as Learning Ally and BookShare, that can
enable textbook access regardless of which school you attend, and most
professors are quite willing to allow access to their course
materials. Finally, no matter where you are, you have the option to
use readers.
In doing your research I would recommend talking to faculty or
advisors in your specific field of study at the various schools you
are considering to get information about that program of study, rather
than focusing on blindness-related concerns. That will allow you to
figure out which school has the best course of study in your specific
field, which is something that blind folks in different majors may not
be able to tell you. Then you can give a report to VR that is focused
on your career goals. If, however, your plans for school are more
exploratory in nature--just taking a class or two here and there--then
you are probably better off paying for the classes yourself and not
worrying about research or justification.
Best,
Arielle

On 11/3/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> If you get excepted anywhere else, don't go to CSU, I'm there now and 
> unless
>
> you have the option to take many classes privately or you want a very long
> degree, you don't want to go there. If prop 30 doesn't pass we can 
> basically
>
> wave good bye to what little CSU we have and find another college.
> Something you can use as justification for going to that online college is
> the fact it is 100% online, so you don't have to worry about housing,
> accessibility, books, transportation, new mobility for each quarter, or 
> your
>
> lecturers being laid off. You may also want to say that the coursework 
> will
>
> be a great deal less stressful because you don't need to focus on more 
> than
>
> one class at a time. If you have problems concentrating, this would be
> something never done by any other college.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:35 PM
> To: Everett Gavel ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Have You Researched or Attended Colorado Schools or
> the University of Phoenix?
>
> Hello,
>
> I have experience with PPCC and with UCCS, so if you have any
> questions, please let me know. I also know of a couple of people that
> attend CSU.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 11/1/12, Everett Gavel <everett at everettgavel.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Anyone here attended or researched going to Pike's Peak Community College
>> (PPCC), University of Colorado -- Colorado Springs (UCCS), Colorado State
>> University (CSU), or the University of Phoenix? If so, could I please
>> talk
>> with you off-list?
>>
>> I'm attending college online at a private college, Ashford University
>> (based
>>
>> in Iowa). It's very accessible, and should be for at least the first 2
>> years, they say. They use some Constellation teaching system, rather than
>> something like Blackboard.  Also, the reason I chose it was first for
>> accessibility, but a close second was the fact that they only give you 1
>> class at a time, each class being 5 weeks long, and you still get your
>> 120
>> credit hours in 4 years or whatever the requirement is for a 4-year
>> degree.
>>
>> I mean, come on, how cool is that? Only 1 class at a time? I never heard
>> of
>>
>> such a thing before, but as soon as I did I jumped on the opportunity.
>>
>> Anyway, Vocational Rehab here in Colorado will pay for my schooling, and
>> they may even pay for this private University. But I have to of course
>> show
>>
>> why it's the best choice after looking at local/Colorado schools and
>> maybe
>> another online option. So I'm going to look at Pike's Peak Community
>> College
>>
>> (PPCC), University of Colorado -- Colorado Springs (UCCS), & Colorado
>> State
>>
>> University (CSU), as well as the University of Phoenix.
>>
>> My question is, has anyone here already researched or used these
>> facilities?
>>
>> Can I talk with you or hear from you on your experience, or why you did
>> or
>> did not end up attending that particular school? How was the
>> accessibility
>> of it all for you, etc. Has anyone here been to any of these 4 schools?
>>
>> Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>> everett at everettgavel.com
>> (330) 604-5750
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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