[nabs-l] Statistics Class
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Wed Sep 12 21:17:19 UTC 2012
Hi Cody and Arielle,
Great advice as always, Arielle! Cody, I believe there are
symbols in the Nemeth Code for Greek letters, so if it's possible
for you to write your homework in Braille, that's also an option.
I don't know all of them, as I'm only in intermediate algebra. I
do know that the delta sign in Nemeth is 4-6 d.
Arielle, I agree with you about verbal descriptions of graphs; in
fact, that's what I do as well. Yesterday in math we did a
lesson on graphing linear equations. In this lesson we had to
create our own graph, including a title, a scale for the x and y
axes, and labels for the x and y axes. Of course my math teacher
didn't know how I was going to handle this, so she asked my TVI,
who said (answering the same question asked by both my math
teacher and me) that I could write a verbal description. For
these kinds of problems, I put below my work as my verbal
description "x equals (label,) y equals (label.)" I then put the
increments used for the x and y axes, for example "x incrament
equals counting up by 2's" or "y incrament equals counting up by
5's, every other space on graph." If I'm graphing a linear
equation with a slope and a y-intercept, I'll write a verbal
description that looks something like this: "Line starts at
(y-intercept number) on the y axis, then goes up (rise) and to
the left or right (run.) As long as the teacher/professor knows
that you understand the concept and how the graph should look if
there is a graph, I think you'll be good. They don't necessarily
need to see an actual visual graff from everybody, and (in my
experience) they definitely don't want the one blind person in
the class to take forever and frustrate themselves trying to make
a graph that looks correct. I think the verbal description would
be enough.
Hope this helps,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
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Date sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:22:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Statistics Class
Hi Cody,
I have taken several stats courses (on my fifth one this
semester, to
be exact) and I always make up my own symbols or write Greek
letters
in words, i.e. "sum(x+y) or "sigma(x+y), "x-bar" etc. I have
never had
any issues with this method and I think it is completely
justified
because as far as I know, JAWS is unable to read Greek letters
and it
is important that your homework assignments are written in a way
that
makes sense to both you and the professor. You may want to go
back and
review your homework as a study aid later so it is best to have
it
written in a manner that JAWS can read. The only time in my
researcher
life when using the right letters mattered is when I am writing a
paper for publication and in that case, it is easy to have a
reader
change the word "sigma" to the actual character. But for
homework or
tests, using the words should be fine.
Similarly, if an assignment requires drawing a graph or diagram,
like
a histogram, I think writing a verbal description of what the
graph
would look like is just fine. The professor just wants to know
that
you understand what the graph should look like and, like with the
symbols, a verbal description has the advantage of being
meaningful
for both you and the professor. Again, invest the time with a
reader
if you are presenting the graph to other students, or writing a
formal
paper with it, but if it's just homework, the main thing is to
show
you understand what the graph should look like, what the
relationships
are between variables, etc.
BTW, I started a new listserv on NFBNet, called
"Social-Sciences-List", where we talk about statistics among
other
things. It is not very high-traffic so you may want to join it.
Best,
Arielle
On 9/10/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Actually, I'm also taking a Statistics class. I have a
note-taker, and have
the teaching assistant write me the formulas. For math signs,
just have the
professor write them out in words like plus, minus, equals,
stuff like that.
The trick is to have all the notes, concepts, and assignments in
all text,
and in as many words as possible so that you'll totally
understand them.
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