[nabs-l] having a hard time fitting in at church

Arielle Silverman arielle71 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 20 17:21:21 UTC 2012


I think the article was written satirically.
Arielle

On 9/20/12, Littlefield, Tyler <tyler at tysdomain.com> wrote:
> This article, by far is not what you want people to see. If you want to
> fit in, go make friends. But the tone of this article seems to look upon
> us "pitiful souls" as helpless, people those who are "blessed" by god to
> be "normal," in other words, who should feel sorry for us.
> On 9/20/2012 10:44 AM, Andrew Edgcumbe wrote:
>> hear is an article that would lend into this thread.
>>                              Throw Away Christians
>>
>>
>>                                 By Phil Scovell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>            I have discovered a  class, or group, of people, born  again
>> they
>>       are,  members of the  Body of Christ,  yet the church  has thrown
>> them
>>       away.  Strangely  enough, I have learned  how much God loves  each
>> and
>>       every one of these throw away Christians.  It goes without saying,
>> but
>>       I  will say it  any way, Jesus  died for them,  shedding His blood
>> for
>>       their sins, and was bodily resurrected for them, too.
>>
>>            These special  groups cover a  wide range of personalities  and
>> a
>>       variety  of physical  conditions.   Some are  in wheelchairs  for
>> whom
>>       ramps are conveniently constructed in order to get these pitiful
>> souls
>>       up and  into the  church building.   Unfortunately, for  these
>> people,
>>       none of  the bathrooms have  been modified to handle  wheelchairs,
>> So,
>>       extra faith  is required of  these folk to  hold it for  several
>> hours
>>       until they get back home or to wherever they live.  These special
>> folk
>>       are  such a blessing to the  church, too.  It  makes you thankful
>> that
>>       you aren't in a wheelchair.
>>
>>            Another category of  these special Christians with  special
>> needs
>>       are  hard of  hearing.   Little,  if  any, regard  is  given to
>> their
>>       inability to hear through the Public Address system to accommodate
>> the
>>       hearing loss these  people have  nor have  any special
>> accommodations
>>       been made to  the amplification system which would allow  them to
>> wear
>>       earphones or to even plug in to the system, if using implants, so
>> they
>>       could hear better.
>>
>>            If you are totally deaf, on the other hand, you are in luck.
>> The
>>       larger ministries  have taught sign  language and so the  services
>> are
>>       then translated for  the deaf.  If you  so happen to wish  to attend
>> a
>>       church without  a translator, then you  are out of luck.   The hard
>> of
>>       hearing, and the totally deaf, are such a blessing to the church,
>> too.
>>       It makes you thank the Lord for your own hearing ability.
>>
>>            The elderly have their own Sunday school class.  This is nice,
>> of
>>       course, because then  all those  that the  church brings  in from
>> the
>>       nearby nursing home can sit in their own class  without disturbing
>> the
>>       mainstream  body of  believers.   Especially if  they smell  funny
>> and
>>       those bussed  in from the  nearby nursing home  always do.   Yet,
>> even
>>       these elderly people are such a blessing to  the church.  It makes
>> you
>>       thankful for the youth we have.
>>
>>            This  special class and seating arrangement in the church
>> service
>>       for the elderly is  very much like Sunday school for  the children,
>> of
>>       course, so it  seems logically that the  elderly would have  their
>> own
>>       class where they  won't be a bother  to others.  These  same
>> children,
>>       since  they are  so disruptive, have  junior church  immediately
>> after
>>       Sunday school.   This is their own little church they have while
>> their
>>       parents are out in the auditorium having their big church service.
>> In
>>       this way, church workers, who never  get to sit in on a  Sunday
>> school
>>       class or church service, get to teach the children for a good three
>> or
>>       four hours each Sunday.
>>
>>            Although it  is rare, some  of the mega churches  have
>> discovered
>>       blind people read  Braille instead of print.  Since blind people
>> don't
>>       need to see,  their little group of eight  or ten sit on  the back
>> row
>>       where those ungodly large Braille hymn books  are easily stored.
>> This
>>       has really brought the blind community together, we are  told, and
>> the
>>       church is able  to minister to them  better when they are  all
>> grouped
>>       together.     Additionally,  there  is  the   added  blessing  of
>> the
>>       camaraderie which occurs among these,  to be pitied of all
>> handicapped
>>       peoples, just because they are now grouped  together.  They are such
>> a
>>       blessing and encouragement  to the rest of the church as they sit
>> back
>>       on the back  roe with the large  Braille song books and  singing
>> right
>>       along with the rest  of the church.  It makes  you thankful you
>> aren't
>>       blind.
>>
>>            Closely related to the blind group of special Christians, are
>> the
>>       Path Finders group.   These are the mentally retarded bussed in from
>> a
>>       local care  home.   This group also  gets to  sit in  the back of
>> the
>>       church because  they often  become disruptive  during the service
>> and
>>       have to be  taken out by the  special workers.  Thank the  Lord we
>> are
>>       not like them and have mental normality.
>>
>>            Finally,  there  is a  silent  group  of  people who  rarely
>> are
>>       considered.  They don't have their own special hymn books nor are
>> they
>>       assigned a  special place  to sit in  the service.   Furthermore,
>> they
>>       have no special Sunday school class of their own to attend.  We
>> notice
>>       their tears they often  shed during the preaching and teaching  of
>> the
>>       Word  but we just figure  they are being  moved by the  Holy Spirit
>> to
>>       tears.   We would  never once consider  that something  else might
>> be
>>       wrong.
>>
>>            We have  also noticed  that this silent  group of  unnamed
>> people
>>       often are going forward during  the altar call for specialized
>> prayer.
>>       Again, we have  no idea why  but just assume  they have tender
>> hearts
>>       toward the Lord.  We have heard they have some special problems but
>> we
>>       have never  talked to  them, other than  to say  hello when  coming
>> or
>>       going to the church,  and they look like people who  prefer being
>> left
>>       alone anyhow.
>>
>>            Eventually, your curiosity  gets the best of you  and you ask
>> one
>>       of the church  leaders who this silent  group of people are.   You
>> are
>>       told that this group has been unofficially classified by the church
>> as
>>       "those to whom only the professionals can handle."
>>
>>       I could continue  with other segments  of society but you  likely
>> have
>>       gotten the picture by now.
>>
>>            Scattered throughout these  various groups, are little  girls
>> who
>>       have  been  molested  or  raped  by  family  members  or  friends
>> and
>>       relatives.  Little boys can also be found in  the church who have
>> been
>>       sodomized  but as is  the case with  the little girls,  they have
>> been
>>       threatened or ignored if they did tell someone about it.  Now, most
>> of
>>       those children  are adults.  Some  in this silent group  have
>> suffered
>>       from  traumatic   childhood  experiences  and   although  they
>> daily
>>       experience anxiety and  panic attacks, they  have no understanding
>> of
>>       the nature of  the cross they must  carry.  When seeking  counsel
>> from
>>       leaders of the church, they  often are referred to "The
>> Professionals"
>>       and told they will be placed on the church prayer list.
>>
>>            Some of these  people suffering from various  forms of
>> depression
>>       have  ungodly  nightmares  the would  frighten  the  average
>> Christian
>>       beyond emotional stability.   Others cry themselves to  sleep at
>> night
>>       because of  the sadness  that tries  to crush  the life  out of
>> them.
>>       Others,  although they  would never  admit such  to anyone,  even
>> hear
>>       voices.  Some have not only considered suicide but attempted it.
>> They
>>       never told anyone why they were missing from church for the last
>> three
>>       weeks and no one noticed anyhow.  Some of these people in this
>> special
>>       silent group, are  told they are in  advanced stages of  emotional
>> and
>>       mental  illness.   This group  are  on medications  for sleep
>> because
>>       otherwise they are awake all night.  Others are on antidepressants
>> and
>>       antianxiety medications  for  their  depression.   Some  are  on
>> even
>>       stronger  medications  classified  as psychotic  or  psychotropic
>> mind
>>       altering  drugs.    These  are  the more  mentally  ill  people,
>> who,
>>       amazingly enough, seem to function  in life relatively normally as
>> far
>>       as anyone can  tell.  Holding down  a job, caring for  their
>> families,
>>       driving a car, mowing their grass, reading their Bible, serving in
>> the
>>       church,  and other  activities  that seem  perfectly  normal, are
>> all
>>       conducted  by these silently hurting  people.  If  people knew, on
>> the
>>       other hand, they had done as the church leadership had recommended
>> and
>>       gone  to  "The  Professionals"  with  their  problems,  and  were
>> now
>>       diagnosed with  Posttraumatic Stress  Disorder, or  with
>> schizophrenia
>>       tendencies, or told  they have Obsessive Compulsive  disorder,
>> General
>>       Anxiety   Disorder,  or  they   are  clinically  depressed   or
>> manic
>>       depressive, or  if they have been tested and  found to be bipolar,
>> or,
>>       as is  the case  for some  who have  been brave  enough to tell
>> their
>>       doctor that  they heard voices  and now  have been determined  to
>> have
>>       Dissociative  Identity Disorder, which  is multiple personalities,
>> the
>>       church wouldn't  come near  them.   Well,  they don't  come near
>> them
>>       anyway.   These silently hurting  people are throw aways,  right
>> along
>>       with many others, for whom the church chooses not to minister.
>>
>>            My ministry, on the other hand, is  to these silently hurting
>> and
>>       forgotten people.  I pastor them and pray with them.  I  cry for
>> them,
>>       making myself available  for them  24-7 and  pray for them  on my
>> own
>>       times alone with  the Lord.  They  call me in the middle  of the
>> night
>>       and get me out of bed because they  are afraid.  They call me when
>> I'm
>>       eating my breakfast or lunch or supper and I talk to them as they
>> cry
>>       and  tell  me  how frightened  they  are  and how  they  want  to
>> kill
>>       themselves.  They  call me as I  listen to my favorite  football
>> games
>>       which I  turn off to talk  and pray with them.   Sometimes, those
>> with
>>       multiple personalities, call.  It isn't uncommon in such cases for
>> the
>>       frightened  alternate personality to  actually do  the calling.
>> when
>>       they call, I  talk to them until  they become peaceful.   Sometimes
>> an
>>       alternate personality  emails me.   I email them  back and  attempt
>> to
>>       comfort them.   I schedule  regular appointments of prayer  times
>> with
>>       them so the Lord can  continue to reach into  their lives of fear
>> and
>>       guilt and shame and loneliness and anxiety and pain to heal them.
>>
>>            How long do I continue to minister to them?  Until they are
>> whole
>>       and healed from everything.   Is that possible?  If it is not, you
>> are
>>       serving the wrong  God.  Aren't these  people crazy people?   No,
>> they
>>       are hurting people whom  the Lord not only wants  to heal but can
>> and
>>       does.
>>
>>            If you are  one of the suffering silent  people and need
>> ministry
>>       because  you have no one to whom you can  turn, call me.  If you are
>> a
>>       pastor and need ministry, call me.  If you are a pastor's wife and
>> are
>>       trapped by fear  and there's no  one to tell, call  me.  If you  are
>> a
>>       pastor or missionary  or church leader, and find  yourself addicted
>> to
>>       pornography, call  me.   If you  are a mixed  up confused  mom who
>> is
>>       hearing voices in  your head and you  want to kill yourself,  call
>> me.
>>       If  you are depressed, call me.  If  you've been raped or molested
>> and
>>       can't  seem to find  comfort after all  these years, call  me.
>> Having
>>       marital problems?   Call me.  If  you are sexually confused,  call
>> me.
>>       If you  have nightmares, if  you are suicidal, or  if you've
>> attempted
>>       suicide, call me.   If you've lost a  loved one and the  grief is
>> over
>>       powering and it just doesn't get  any better, call me.  If you  are
>> an
>>       obsessive compulsive, call me.  If you have committed the
>> unpardonable
>>       sin, call  me.  If  you doubt your  salvation, call  me.  If  you
>> have
>>       become involved in an affair, call me.  If you are a throw away,
>> call
>>       me.
>>
>>            No,  I am not a professional but as an intercessor, I know how
>> to
>>       pray and The True Lord Jesus  Christ still knows how to heal.   If,
>> on
>>       the  other hand,  you require  professional help,  by all  means,
>> find
>>       someone to help you make the right medical decisions.
>>
>>
>>       Safe Place Fellowship
>>       Phil Scovell
>>       Denver, Colorado USA
>>       Mountain Time Zone
>>       WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.COM
>>
>>
>> On 9/20/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That sounds like a horrible discriminating church if you ask me.
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:16:44 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] having a hard time fitting in at church
>>>
>>> I was told that I  wasn't fowling gods word because I couldn't
>>> talk.  And my sensory input is way, causing me to scream if
>>> things r too bright, loud, or if touched.  Or handle any change.
>>> They thought I was dumb.  They also thought  that I was cursing
>>> them out, when I would make sounds or sign, and that my blindness
>>> was my punishment for not letting them touch me.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2012, at 16:49, Sophie Trist
>>> <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   How can they throw you out of a church just because you're
>>> autistic? Sounds like discrimination to me!
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com
>>>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>   Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:16:55 -0400
>>>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] having a hard time fitting in at church
>>>
>>>   I have been thrown out of 25 churches, due to my autism.  They
>>> seem to be fine with me being blind, but autism was not.  So now
>>> I attend 2 churches.  1 of them has sometimes 15 blind people at
>>> a time.  At the other church, I am the only blind person? I am on
>>> the dance team.  I still do not fit in, but I do try to do ad
>>> much ad I can, and try and be ne'er people with my interests.
>>> Have you tried finding people to talk to that have your
>>> interests?
>>>
>>>   Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>   On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:49, Andrew Edgcumbe
>>> <andrewjedg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi nabs students readers
>>>
>>>   I hope you all are doing well.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Anyway
>>>   I am struggling with fitting in at my church and things.
>>>
>>>   I  been having a hard time finding friends to talk to there and
>>> things.
>>>
>>>   They all seem to talk to each other and just walk away from me
>>> and things.
>>>   every time after the service is over they just talk to each
>>> other's
>>>   friends and i am not really talked to much at all i am often
>>> left
>>>   sitting alone sometimes they walk out of the church pew all
>>> together
>>>   and things i get left behind allot i don't get included in going
>>> out
>>>   to lunch and things like that.
>>>
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