[nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with sightedsocietyatsocial gatherings

Carly Mihalakis carlymih at comcast.net
Thu Sep 20 18:17:39 UTC 2012


What the hell does BA years old, mean?PM 9/19/2012, Humberto Avila wrote:
>Hey, I am BA years old, though I have never cquiired a college degree, yet.
>(smile!) I'm going to, someday, but by that time I will not be BA years old
>anymore.. Smile!***
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>Of Brandon Keith Biggs
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:13 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sightedsocietyatsocial gatherings
>
>Hello Sarah,
>"I am bj years old" That just made my day! I love knowing Braille :). I'm
>totally going to say that next time someone asks me how old I am. Or I could
>
>say second octave b :)...
>So nice to have you on the list!
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sarah
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:45 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sightedsocietyatsocial gatherings
>
>Hello everyone, my name is Sarah.  I am bj years old.  I just
>graduated a program called D.P.I.  Davidson Program For
>Independence.  I had to go there because Guide Dogs Of the Desert
>said I had to go.  So I graduated from there, tomorrow I go get
>my first guide dog! My interests are rides, reading, listening to
>tv, dogs and horses
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:48:32 -0700
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sighted societyatsocial gatherings
>
>Hello,
>There are quite a few ideas that are universal through out
>cultures.
>For example, it is never socially acceptable to sway in
>conversation.  It is
>only acceptable to rock back and forth mildly when playing guitar
>or more
>heavily when one is studying the old testament as a Jew.
>Otherwise chin up, strait and relaxed stillness for the torso
>almost always.
>
>Also, facial expressions are almost constant through out all
>cultures.  A
>smile is always happy, big eyes are innocents or raised eyebrows,
>big eyes
>with mouth a little open is startled or scared.
>Beckoning is also a very universal gesture with the fist out in
>front facing
>up with the index finger moving up and down like the person is a
>balloon and
>the string is on your finger...
>
>Fit me in or something along that lines is more inclusive because
>it means
>one can ask about fitting in to their theater group, dance teem,
>glee club,
>getting in a relationship, dating...
>
>I am not sure how people are expecting to fit into a sighted
>world without
>some sighted help.
>Although I am guessing that the way the list will pan out is more
>blind
>people asking questions and both blind people and a few TVIs or
>parents will
>help.  I am on a couple lists with quite a few sighted people and
>with
>questions like this they are invaluable...
>Who knew that hugging yourself with your hands in a fist over
>your heart, as
>if you were trying to keep warm, actually looks like you are
>terrified of
>something?
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arielle Silverman
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:24 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sighted societyat
>social gatherings
>
>Hi all,
>Sorry to be difficult but I am not willing to join a listserv
>called
>"Being  Socially Acceptable Blind" or "Looking Sighted".  Both
>names
>imply that all sighted people look and act the same  or that
>there is
>only one way to be socially  acceptable; these are notions that,
>frankly, I believe are offensive to blind and sighted people
>both.
>I believe such a listserv should be intended to be a
>nonjudgmental
>forum where blind folks can ask questions or share frustrations
>and
>get supportive answers from blind peers and blind mentors, not a
>place
>where subscribers are told they must look and act a certain way.
>Also,
>while we might let TVI's join if they want, I think the vast
>majority
>of the subscribers should be blind people and we should keep
>teachers
>and authority figures to a minimum.
>I'd support a  name like "blind-fitting in", "blind-social" or
>"blind-dating" perhaps.
>If the group is created with a tolerant, non-judgmental name I'd
>be
>happy to help out with it.
>
>
>On 9/19/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>Names:
>See me blind (SEM at blah.whatever)
>Being Socially acceptable blind (SEB)
>Looking Sighted (LS or LSighted)
>talk sightless (TSightless)
>
>Just some names...
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Desiree Oudinot
>Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:48 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sighted
>societyat
>
>social gatherings
>
>That's actually a pretty good idea for a name.  That was the
>only thing
>holding me back from creating a group, the fact I couldn't
>really
>think of a name for it.  As for making a website, that would be
>a cool
>idea too, but I don't know html or anything, so I decided not to
>go
>that route.
>Where I was going when I was talking about the different student
>divisions was that I don't want it to become a point of
>contension on
>the list.  I don't want people going to war over which
>organization's
>philosophy prepares people to deal with social and dating
>situations
>better.  It's fine for people to be part of whatever they so
>choose,
>but I absolutely will not tolerate stereotypes about either one.
>I
>want it to be a safe place where people can feel open enough to
>discuss such uncomfortable and embarrassing topics as their
>social
>awkwardness.  If someone starts saying that joining the NFB
>would help
>them be more independent, or that the ACB is crap, well, what
>will
>that solve? I'm not a member of either, nor do I ever intend on
>doing
>so, so I feel that I could nip this stuff in the bud if it would
>happen, and I'm not even saying it necessarily would become a
>problem,
>it's just something to consider.
>
>On 9/19/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>Hello,
>Frankly I don't know what the difference between the ACB's
>student and
>NFB's
>
>student division is.  We are all dealing with exactly the same
>things.  So
>I
>really believe we should get our sighted parents, friends and
>whatnot to
>be
>
>on the list to answer questions we may have.  Many TVIs would
>jump at the
>chance to be on a list serve devoted to socializing.
>Just make a group, possibly:
>bseb at googlegroups.com or something :).  Being socially
>acceptable blind or
>
>a
>
>cooler name LOL...  Any ideas?
>I even think this should have a website with different articles
>that
>someone
>
>can brows to answer any personal questions they may have.
>Because this is
>such a big issue.
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Desiree Oudinot
>Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:29 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sighted
>societyat
>
>social gatherings
>
>And this is precisely why I wanted to create a separate list to
>discuss these kinds of issues and more.  And, at the risk of
>offending
>people, I wanted it to be a separate list, separate from the NFB
>or
>ACB, I wanted it to be the place for every blind person, no
>matter
>their political or social status or whatever, to discuss how
>they fit
>in with society.  Why does it offend you that blind people,
>whether
>they be men or women, should try to do their best to interact as
>sighted people do? Are there really specific guidelines we have
>to
>follow? I really want to understand this.  I know as well as
>anyone
>what struggles we have to go through growing up just to be
>treated
>like human beings.  First, we're blind people, then we're young,
>and
>the stereotypes surrounding young people of our generation are
>just as
>crippling as those surrounding being blind.  So being dealt both
>as our
>hand in life is kind of a double whammy.  I still struggle when
>someone
>actually treats me as an equal.  I want to run away.
>
>On 9/14/12, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>I've tried to avoid getting into this thread, but here goes:
>1.  Blind people acting like sighted people scares the crap out
>of
>me because it just does for some reason.
>2.  Girls' conformity rules are terrible: for instance, girls
>shouldn't be scientists.  What does that statement say about us
>girls?  Girls should be married to men with decent jobs.  No, I
>will not marry a man with any job so I can be taken care of, and
>this isn't the friggin' 1800's.  Girls and women can take care
>of
>themselves, and they can work and support families.  Jason, my
>current bf, does not work and can't do what society says, be a
>man and work and get paid for the woman.  Some societies demand
>that all men work and women stay home.  We, Americans though we
>are, still have these demands on blind women.  I as a blind
>woman
>cannot accept conformity or defeat due to womanhood.  Since
>Jason
>can't work and follow society's rules of manhood, it's up to me
>to do it.  Girls should not always do typing, nursing, or
>different "womanly" professions where they get paid less than
>ordinary men.  Jason, due to his disability, does not work.  I,
>due to mental illness, may never work.  I want to work so bad,
>but where?  Goodwill is out of the question.  I'm not working
>for
>nothing or low wages because I'm a woman.  And no way will I
>accept sexual harassment because I have breasts and different
>organs inside me.  I as a blind woman will not accept rules
>saying "You will be taken care of.  You will be a stay-at-home
>wife.  You will be poor."  No way.
>Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>From: Marc Workman <mworkman.lists at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:37:00 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] social norms: how we can fit in with
>sighted societyat social gatherings
>
>Chris wrote,
>Therefore, it is important that we know the unwritten rules
>which
>our sighted society has made.  If we don't know them and follow
>them, what does that say about us as blind people? It says we
>are
>weird, different, abnormal, incompetent, dependent, etc.
>
>Alternatively, perhaps it says that those rules are not natural,
>that they are the product of sighted people simply aping one
>another, and that they are arbitrary.  I believe that such
>unwritten rules often needlessly cause huge amounts of anxiety,
>self-loathing, and anguish.
>
>We had a similar discussion on this list some time ago,
>particularly around the subject of so called "blindisms, and I
>put that term in quotes as a way of acknowledging that it is
>pejorative.  I'm sure it could be found on line by anyone who is
>interested.
>
>Personally, I would rather live in a world where blind people
>are
>accepted and respected not simply to the extent that they can
>look and act like sighted people, but on the grounds that they
>are human beings possessing dignity and as equally worthy of
>respect as sighted people.  The message shouldn't be, "hey, we
>can
>follow your rules, so you should accept us".  Instead, the
>message
>should be, "we, like you, have many talents and weaknesses, feel
>pleasure and pain, reach our full potential through the
>formation
>of deep and meaningful relationships with other human beings,
>and
>your failure to treat us with respect and as equals is unfair,
>discriminatory, and immoral", to borrow from Mr.  Lewis.
>
>By the way, I think this goes well beyond blind people fitting
>into sighted society.  We are constantly policing one another's
>behaviour.  Probably one of the more obvious examples of this
>has
>to do with gender.  There are hundreds if not thousands of
>mostly
>unspoken rules about what makes a man a man and how real men
>ought to behave, and there are twice as many concerning women.
>These rules are enforced in subtle but effective ways, and the
>result is often a great deal of suffering for anyone who cannot,
>or chooses not to, conform.  These gender rules are just as
>arbitrary as those around sighted/blind behaviour, and the
>effort
>similarly should be to relax and remove such rules, not to more
>explicitly and fervently teach boys and girls the so called
>right
>way to act.
>
>This is of course easier said than done, and failing to conform
>does unfortunately often result in suffering, such as missed
>social, volunteer, and employment opportunities.  So I don't
>judge
>or condemn anyone who makes a serious effort to learn the
>unwritten rules of sighted society, just as I don't judge
>someone
>who wants to spend all of his or her time reading medical
>journals and desperately praying for a cure.  It's hard being
>blind in the particular society in which we live, and conforming
>can make things a little bit easier.  But I still think we
>should
>work more on changing attitudes and less on teaching blind
>people
>how to look and act like sighted people.
>
>Regards,
>
>Marc
>On 2012-09-14, at 3:04 PM, Chris Nusbaum
><dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Hi Brandon and all,
>
>   I'm taking the liberty here to change the subject of this
>thread, as if we're going to discuss the topic which Brandon has
>brought up in his post, I think it would prevent confusion if we
>changed the subject to reflect the actual topic of Brandon's
>message.
>
>   Brandon, your idea about the NFB conducting some kind of
>instructional seminar or workshop on social norms and how we can
>"fit in" with the sighted public is a great one! I think you
>should talk with the NFB leadership about this! I believe NOPBC
>(the parents division) has touched on this topic in their
>seminars at conventions.  One of the topics at the parents
>seminar at the Maryland state convention is almost always social
>skills, especially what sighted society has deemed socially
>acceptable and how we as blind people can fit in at social
>gatherings, conforming as best we can to the "norms" of society.
>I believe this is arguably more important for blind students, as
>we are often in social gatherings (or want to be in them) at our
>schools, with our friends, or in our communities.  Therefore, it
>is important  that we know the unwritten rules which our sighted
>society has made.  If we don't know them and follow them, what
>does that say about us as blind people? It says we are weird,
>different, abnormal, incompetent, dependent, etc.  These are the
>very adjectives we in the Federation have been working to cut
>out
>from the vocabulary of the public when in the context of
>blindness and blind people.  In other words, these are the very
>things we don't want sighted people thinking about us.  If this
>is how sighted people perceive us, then it puts our ability to
>get a job, volunteer in our community, and become first-class
>citizens at risk.  So, I think this would be a great thing for
>the NFB to do, and one which I'm kind of surprised we're not
>doing already.  Also, since this is an important topic for blind
>students, perhaps "social skills and norms" could be the topic
>of
>a future NABS membership call.
>
>   Just my thoughts,
>
>   Chris
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:15:16 -0700
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
>
>   Hello,
>   We aren't promoting sex among students, we are promoting safe
>sex.  There is
>   a huge difference.  If the student division is the only one
>with
>some
>   practical sense about sexual activities, I'm a little scared...
>:)
>   I do agree though, sex, dating and excepted socializing among a
>sighted
>   community is a very big topic that is often times ignored by
>the
>blind
>   community.
>   I have been told by sighted TVIs that many blind folks (youth
>or
>not) have
>   some very strange mannerisms and beliefs that are totally
>against the grain
>   of sighted society.  My mom in particular, who is a TVI, has
>suggested that
>   the NFB should really give some instruction on how the sighted
>world thinks.
>   Otherwise what will happen (and what has happened) is the world
>looks at a
>   gathering of blind people and cringes because they are so
>weird.
>or a
>   sighted girl sees a blind guy and thinks she wants to talk to
>him and when
>   she is about to sit down and say hi, the guy does something
>really weird and
>   she turns around and walks a mile away.
>   This is a little different than the deal with the condoms, but
>both sexual
>   health and social issues are topics that are very much in need
>of attention
>   among blind individuals, and students in particular.
>   I feel strongly that having some active workshops on this that
>aren't meant
>   to be uncomfortable, but still deal with the taboo problems
>would greatly
>   improve convention.
>   Thank you,
>
>   Brandon Keith Biggs
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Arielle Silverman
>   Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:18 PM
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
>
>   Hi all,
>   I have joked in the past about how NABS should sell Brailled
>Whozit
>   condoms at convention! Kidding aside, though, there are
>probably
>some
>   NFB leaders with more conservative leanings, who might feel
>that
>NABS
>   selling condoms at convention would be promoting sexual
>activity
>among
>   young or unmarried blind students.  I don't agree with that
>position,
>   but some people do and since anything NABS does is, by
>extension, an
>   NFB-sanctioned event, we would need to balance the benefits of
>   providing condoms against possibly upsetting the NFB leadership
>or
>   bringing on an unwanted political debate.
>   I would be more likely to support a NABS breakout session, at
>   Washington Seminar or elsewhere, about sexuality in general,
>and
>   perhaps include an opportunity to try putting a condom on the
>   proverbial banana or some such.  When I was 15, I went to a
>diversity
>   camp (for sighted teens) and there was a sexuality workshop
>available
>   as one of several choices.  They passed around condoms and in
>fact,
>   this was the first time I actually felt one.  A general
>workshop
>about
>   sex, dating and etiquette, etc.  might be worth having.
>   Arielle
>
>   On 9/10/12, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>wrote:
>   Hello,
>   This would be an awesome idea! Not only because many people
>have
>never
>   seen
>
>   a condom, so they could finger the packages with labels without
>having to
>   be
>
>   embarrassed, but when I was at the hotel I didn't run into any
>condoms in
>   the store.  Granted I wasn't looking for them, but I was
>browsing...
>   Condoms,
>
>   lube and Dental Dams, all labeled in Braille! We would also
>probably need
>   to
>
>   provide guides for people on how to find the right way to put
>on
>a condom
>   or
>
>   use a dental dam.
>   Another thing I didn't see at the NABS table is hot serial.
>The
>packing
>   guide in the nabs newsletter  said to pack a ton of things and
>I
>for one
>   don't keep hot serial in the house and I don't shop at places
>that sell
>   hot
>
>   serial, so wasn't able to grab a box.  But I would have loved
>to
>buy a box
>   for even $10 or more, the breakfasts there were $10 alone...
>(Then of
>   course
>
>   we could sell bole and spoon packs for the poor folks who
>didn't
>bring
>   their
>
>   own utensil's).
>   Thanks,
>
>   Brandon Keith Biggs
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Anmol Bhatia
>   Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:28 AM
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
>
>
>   You would be a good place to sell and buy condoms? At the NFB
>   convention...
>
>   Perhaps Nabs should sell condoms at the NABS table.  We can
>even
>braille
>   them
>
>   so the perso can know what kind of condoms they have.  lol
>
>   Anmol
>
>   I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me
>sad.
>Perhaps
>   there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague,
>like a breeze
>   among flowers.
>   Hellen Keller
>
>
>   --- On Sun, 9/9/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
>wrote:
>
>   From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
>   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, "National Association of Blind Students
>mailing
>   list"
>
>   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 10:54 PM
>   Hi, Brandon,
>
>   I went into a place in Denver to  buy a dildo yes, on
>   the bigger, ribbed side to use in the old fashioned bath tub
>   I had at the time, to get myself off with the faucet.
>   Traditionally, I need something in my ass, to cum.  If I
>   remember, the folks in their wer very cool, look at the
>   blind girl going to by herself a dildo! Don't worry! If
>   you're relaxed, and cool about what you're doing so will be
>   the bookstore, personnel.  Let us know how goes it,
>   okay?  At 04:52 PM 9/8/2012, SA Mobile wrote:
>   Those are the best places to get stuff as the staff are
>   professional and are trained to make customers feel at ease.
>   Just make sure the shop is of good repute.
>
>   Respectfully,
>   Jedi
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>   On 08/09/2012, at 12:36 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>   <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>   wrote:
>
>   Hello,
>   Thank goodness my father was a nurse and when I
>   turned 18, he said addio to being in with me at the doctor.
>   I do find it amusing though that some doctors are actually
>   really uncomfortable touching me because I'm blind...  That
>   only happened after my dad started leaving the room.
>   Thank you Arielle for those websites.  I don't feel
>   that condoms are something I want to buy from a website I've
>   never heard of before unless someone I know has gotten or
>   knows that site is trust worthy.
>   I was told that flavored condoms were only to be
>   used in oral intercourse.  The same is not for lube I
>   presume?
>   Also, has anyone ever gone into a sex store? How
>   was it as a blind shopper? Even from sighted people I hear
>   the experience is often not pleasant.
>   Thanks,
>
>   Brandon Keith Biggs
>   -----Original Message----- From: Arielle
>   Silverman
>   Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:00 AM
>   To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Subject: [nabs-l] condoms and Sexual Health
>
>   Hi all,
>   I know the recent discussions about sex and dating
>   are kind of in a
>   gray area as to whether or not they're on-topic
>   for this list, since
>   most of the issues Koby brought up are not really
>   unique to blindness.
>   So if the moderators or Dave feel this is getting
>   too far afield, I
>   will happily respect your judgment.  However, I
>   also think that
>   Brandon's question about where to get condoms is a
>   legitimate one and
>   that there might be other blind people out here,
>   including teenagers,
>   who have similar concerns about how to get
>   condoms, birth control or
>   sexual health information without a lot of
>   awkwardness or
>   embarrassment.  It can be particularly difficult if
>   you have to depend
>   on someone else (especially parents) for
>   transportation which can make
>   going to a clinic or drugstore difficult.
>   There are a few places to buy condoms online,
>   including
>   www.condomania.com
>   www.undercovercondoms.com
>   and
>   www.condomdepot.com
>   Believe it or not, they also have some condom
>   choices at
>   www.amazon.com
>   If you go to your health center on campus for any
>   reason, it shouldn't
>   be a problem  to ask a doctor or nurse there
>   about condoms.
>   I cannot answer the questions about when to begin
>   having sex with a
>   partner because that is a highly individual
>   decision.  However, I feel
>   it important that anyone who is considering having
>   sex for the first
>   time ensure you understand what all of your
>   options are for preventing
>   pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, the
>   advantages and
>   disadvantages of each option, and the proper way
>   to use condoms  and
>   birth control.  There are  a couple different
>   websites with this kind
>   of information:
>   www.plannedparenthood.org
>   (includes live chat with a sexual health educator)
>   or
>   www.scarleteen.com
>   This issue is particularly close to my heart at
>   the moment because my
>   boyfriend's sister just had an unintended
>   pregnancy at a very
>   inopportune time (while still in college, with a
>   guy she had only
>   known for a few months) and was apparently taking
>   birth control pills,
>   but had not been taking them consistently.  While I
>   don't believe that
>   sex  should be feared, it is something that
>   takes some responsibility,
>   planning and foresight to ensure it is enjoyable
>   while minimizing the
>   risks.  Also, while I won't go into details here,
>   there are other ways
>   to be physically intimate with someone that are
>   less risky, which
>   these online forums will talk about.
>   I also want to bring up  an issue that is
>   somewhat relevant to sexual
>   health, which I experienced and I think that some
>   of you might also be
>   struggling with.  This is the issue of having your
>   parents drive you to
>   doctors' appointments and then having them want to
>   sit in or even
>   participate in your appointments.  Since I attended
>   college in my home
>   city, my mother always wanted to drive me to my
>   doctors' appointments
>   and would then want to come in and chat with the
>   doctor while he/she
>   was examining me.  This was partly because my
>   parents and I saw many of
>   the same doctors and she often thought it was a
>   good opportunity to
>   ask the doctor a quick question about her own
>   health while she was
>   there, or because she was curious to see what the
>   doctor recommended
>   to me about a particular issue.  I eventually
>   realized that while it
>   wasn't ill-intentioned, it was a violation of my
>   privacy as an adult
>   patient and I asked her to wait in the waiting
>   room while I was seeing
>   the doctor.  I didn't actually take this stand
>   until I was 21 and in
>   hindsight I wish I had done  it much earlier.
>   By the time you are 18,
>   unless you have a serious cognitive disability,
>   you have a right to
>   privacy of your medical information and it is
>   important to establish a
>   good doctor-patient relationship without a third
>   person interfering.
>   This is especially true when it comes to sexual
>   health and by the time
>   you are 18 or even 16, you will want to start
>   discussing your sexual
>   activities or questions with your doctors without
>   your parents being
>   around.  You might also want to consider getting a
>   driver or even
>   taking the bus to medical appointments to avoid
>   this problem.
>   On a related note, by the time you are in high
>   school, you should know
>   the names of all medications you take on  a
>   regular basis and any
>   chronic medical conditions you may have.  If you
>   ever have to go to the
>   emergency room, this kind  of information may
>   be requested of you.
>   Best,
>   Arielle
>
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