[nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Sarah
coastergirl92 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 2 04:05:18 UTC 2013
They also let me on because they said it's not fair to mao the
dog wait that long because the dog doesn't understand the concept
of waiting your turn. The pass wasn't as much as Flash pass.
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Wait, so do they let you right on the rides because you have a
service dog or because you bought an immediate ride pass? If its
the pass, that's fine! People without disabilities can buy those
too if they can afford it.
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On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm not making my guide dog wait 4 hours for one ride in the
uncomfortable hot weather. Besides, all the ride operators know
me at the park anyways. I never waited in line before I did for
like 2 hours because X2 broke down and sy had to replace a wheel.
But I'm not making Wizard wait in line er 4 hours for each ride.
It's like 2 or 4 hours for each ride and I bought an immediate
boarding pass. All I have to do is show the paper I bought to
the operator if they don't know me already, and they let me on.
People are just jealous because they can't do it!
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Sarah,
I know you're going to get a lot of flack for what you just
said, so
I'll do my best to be gentle. I know each person's situation is
different, so I'm not judging every blind person who chooses to
take
that extra perk and cut through line; for all I know, there
really is
some other disability or legitimate need for that accommodation
with
some of us, so farbeit from me to condemn everyone wholesale for
making that choice. Still, and I feel very strongly about this,
if
you are capable of waiting in line with everybody else, you
should.
Period. In the past, there have been a few times where I've
caved in
to family pressure and broken my own rule; I'm not proud of it,
I
don't always measure up to my own standards here, but I
nevertheless
believe very passionately that we should not take
"accommodation"
where we do not need it. If you had no real need to cut in
line, and
it sounds like you didn't if you've been able to wait in long
lines
before (if I'm wrong please forgive me), you shouldn't have.
That's
my opinion, I'm not trying to be harsh because I've certainly
skipped
in line a few times before (and invariably felt ashamed
afterwords),
but accommodation is only real accommodation if it serves a real
need.
We have enough real needs already to go around taking advantage
of
things that just aren't necessary. Not only is it a waste but
it can,
if we aren't careful, send totally the wrong message about
blindness.
Our reputation as people who take and take, without giving back,
isn't
entirely unjustified. If we want to be treated equally, we
_have_ to
have it both ways. If we want equal treatment, we have equal
responsibility. Much as this might seem menial, or irrelevant
to the
larger problems we face, waiting in lines is a drudgery that we
ought
to accept cheerfully (or at least grudgingly) if we really want
equal
access to amusement parks. I think, for many blind people, the
attitude which says it's okay to cut in line even though we
could wait
like everyone else is indicative of a far, far larger problem.
I am,
of course, referring to the idea that we are entitled to special
treatment and superior, not equal access. We wouldn't phrase it
that
way...but when we're asking for unnecessary extended time for
assignments (I'm not implying that all extended time is
unnecessary),
demanding the right to a dedicated person to take our notes for
us,
begging rehab for every piece of the newest and greatest
technology
and, yes, cutting in lines at amusement parks...isn't that what
we're
really saying? Just my humble opinion, take it for what it's
worth.
Best,
Kirt
On 4/1/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
So they let you cut through the line with a dog, but not with a
cane?
Interesting.
Chris
Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409
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Sarah
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Because with my dog, they let me right on, and they watch the
dog very
carefully even when someone else is holding it so nobody pets it
while
you're on the ride. With a cane, they will just say "Wait 4
hours like
everyone else."
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Sarah,
Just curious: how is Six Flags more accommodating to a guide dog
user than
to a cane user?
Chris
Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409
-----Original Message-----
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Sarah Meeks
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
My best amusement park experience has always been Six Flags.
They are very
accommodating. There you are more accommodating now that I have
a dog.
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On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Kaiti Shelton
<crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
Yay for Disney! they were by far my best park experience. I
went twice
as a little kid. The first time I went I was five or six and my
parents
also had a baby in a stroller, so the practice for both me and
my sister
was to hold onto our brother's stroller to keep with our
parents and not
get lost. My parents just gave me verbal direction and were
with me the
entire time, so there really wasn't a major need for a cane.
When I went
again as an older kid though, I did have a folding cane and the
Disney
staff was very good about either showing me tricks to keep it
with me or
holding it and then giving it back to me when I got off, even
on water
rides like Splash Mountain and the Pirates of the Caribbean
rides which
start in one place and end at another. If you have a folding
cane you can
secure it folded with the loop and then put your wrist through
the cane
and
the strap and just let it hang as you hold onto something. It
won't flop
around as much as the telescopic cane. Also, the holster idea
sounds
good,
although some park personelle at other amusement parks get
worried about
it coming lose. Either way, you shouldn't have any problems
with getting
the ride people to bring you your cane at the ride exit.
By the way, Universal Studios was excellent about working with
the cane
too. I went there in the same vacation that I went to Disney
for the
second time and they were very accomodating.
On 4/1/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
Sophie,
I'm one of those random oddballs who would probably go alone if
I was
traveling, and there was a really cool theme park near by.
I
know it's not for everyone, but occasionally doing those kinds
of "social"
things by myself is fun for me; both to keep my confidence up
and to meet
people that I otherwise wouldn't get to know.
Anyways, I've taken my straight cane to theme parks no problem,
but I'll
confess I haven't tried a water park with it yet. A collapsible
or
folding
cane seems more reasonable to me there. On rollercoasters or
big rides
like that, I've almost always just given my straight cane to
the ride
attendant and picked it up when the ride is done, but those
rides usually
start and end at the same place.
Waterslides
and things are different though, obviously.
Basically, I've been reading this thread to see what useful
bits I could
glean from it, as I'll probably be going to a few water parks
myself over
the summer. Maybe this will finally give me the motivation I
need to buy
another collapsible or NFB folding cane. (I actually liked
mine for the
year or so it lasted, but I used it sparingly and certainly not
as my
primary cane.) Thanks, all, for the help and suggewstions.
Best,
Kirt
On 3/31/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
I would where a belt around my bathing suit, and Use a folding
cane with
a
holster.
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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Cindy
Bennett
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:25 PM
To: National Asociation of Blind Students
Subject: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Hi everyone,
This summer, I am going to a water park. When I go to theme
parks, I
typically store my cane somewhere outside the ride area or on
the exit
side
of a roller coaster platform. However, many water rides are
such that you
get on the ride in a different location, often quite a walk
away, from the
place where you get off of the ride.
My
cane is too long to fit in many inner tubes, and I doubt that it
would be
a safe thing to bring along especially if it came loose.
I am wondering if a telescoping cane would be the best for this,
because
I
know that many water rides have shoe holders. It would just be
annoying,
because I would have to rely on someone to guide me back to
these shoe
holders that are often at the entrance of the ride.
So what are your suggestions for storing a cane during water
rides?
Thanks.
--
Cindy Bennett
Secretary: National Association of Blind Students Legislative
Coordinator: National Federation of the Blind of Washington
B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
clb5590 at gmail.com
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