[nabs-l] Telescopic cane question

Tue Apr 2 05:03:57 UTC 2013

Me neither; I love those.

On 4/1/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> And I haven't had those problems with a Chris Park cane with a metal tip.
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:12 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>
> Chris: his canes are too fragile!
> His folding cane that I bought, last year didn't last long, because when I
> folded it up, after I got it, and tried to unfold it to go to my next
> session, the stupid thing was already messed up, and one of the joints was
> broken.
> His straight canes are a disaster!
> The tips come off, way too easy!
> I tripped, on my way back from Denny's, and when I picked up my cane, when
> I
> got back, the tip was gone!
> I haven't had those problems with my Ambutech cane!
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Chris Nusbaum
> [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:22 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>
> I'd agree that it isn't good for PR, but I must say that he makes a good
> cane.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:50 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>
> I met Chris Park at the 2012 convention!
> He's into his canes, and he bad-mouths anyone and everyone that doesn't
> order his stuff!
> He's not a really nice man, unless you are using his products!
> That's not a good P.R. move!
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kaiti Shelton
> [crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:07 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>
> Hi all,
>
> Chris Park's site is:
> www.chrisparkdesign.com
>
> As we were saying earlier on the thread though, there unfortunately isn't a
> way to purchase through this site.  You could try emailing him on the
> contact page and seeing if you could just go through him directly, but he
> seems to sell through NFB.  Having had experience with both the NFB and his
> model of telescopic cane, I'd totally recommend going through the
> Independence Market and just requesting his model.  In my experiences it's
> totally been worth it.
>
> Chris: Really?  I didn't know Ambutech started making lighter models; that
> was why I started going with NFB for all my canes, although like you I
> found
> their folding ones had joint problems and some other issues and didn't last
> long.  You'll have to share how that one feels when you get it.  :)
>
>
>
> On 3/30/13, christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Arielle, I agree. I got my NFB folding cane for Christmas, but after
>> only 2 months the joints are chipping to the point that I can no
>> longer fold it without having to do a lot of wiggling to get it
>> unfolded. I was very excited about this folding cane, but
>> unfortunately I have been disappointed by its performance, or lack
>> thereof. I now have an Ambutech Ultra Light folding cane on order.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Could someone send the URL for the Chris Park site? I would really
>>> love to get a better-quality telescoping or folding cane than what
>>> I've gotten from NFB. Their straight canes are wonderful, but I have
>>> yet to be satisfied with any non-rigid cane from them.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 3/30/13, christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You might also call the Independence Market at our national center.
>>>> The number is (410) 659-9314, option 4 from the main menu.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Kaiti Shelton
>>>> <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> That is right, unless you clarify in the comment section the model
>>>>> you want.  If you tell them you specifically want the Chris Park
>>>>> model in the comments they won't ignore that and you'll get what
>>>>> you want for your $35.  The clarification might be there for people
>>>>> who don't know to do the comment thing, (which I'm assuming would
>>>>> be the majority of people), but they don't make it impossible for
>>>>> you to get what you want for your buck.  Actually, my ability to
>>>>> see the pictures probably further complicated the issue; had I just
>>>>> gone off the cane type and commented that I wanted the Chris Park
>>>>> model from the start I would have saved myself some confusion,
>>>>> although I'm not sure many other people would have known to do that
> either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you been able to purchase directly from Chris Park's site?
>>>>> That was where I looked after the NFB store was confusing me and
>>>>> before I called, but I didn't see any links to the specific models
>>>>> or to checkout/purchase anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/30/13, Brice Smith <brice.smith319 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Right. So if you just order a type 7 cane from the NFB store,
>>>>>> there's no guarantee what you'll actually get when you spend your
>>>>>> $35? You might get Chris Park's model, but you might also get the
>>>>>> old (pre
>>>>>> 2010) model that most people universally seem to dislike? The
>>>>>> amusing thing here is that while Kaiti can check out the pictures,
>>>>>> other users of the store ... can't. So the NFB's lack of
>>>>>> clarification here makes perfect sense! Got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, Chris Park has his own website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.chrisparkdesign.com/sub_01_new.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/30/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brice, I guess what they do is they just classify the canes by type.
>>>>>>> E.G, all the 5 or 6 section telescopic canes are listed on the
>>>>>>> site as type 7.  This type includes all the models that fit into
>>>>>>> that category, so when you buy one you might get any model
>>>>>>> depending on what they have in stock unless you specifically tell
>>>>>>> them you want a specific type, E.G. the Chris Park.  That one is
>>>>>>> still the latest and greatest thing out there, so I guess we were
>>>>>>> both lucky to get it when we bought our canes.  What got me into
>>>>>>> trouble looking through the search results was that I didn't
>>>>>>> remember the exact type, so I assumed that the Chris Park would
>>>>>>> have it's own little category in the search results, (I didn't
>>>>>>> buy my last cane either, so I wasn't familiar with how to get to
>>>>>>> it from previous experience).  Looking at the picture for the
>>>>>>> type 7, it shows two different models of NFB canes, but neither
>>>>>>> of them were the Chris Park.  I was looking for that distinct
>>>>>>> grip which is much bigger than a lot of the NFB models and didn't
>>>>>>> see it.  Now we know.  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose every cane is different, Joshua, but I had
>>>>>>> significantly more collapses with my NFB telescopic cane I bought
>>>>>>> in 2009 than I have with the Chris Park model.  I don't think you
>>>>>>> had the newest one; the collapse-resistant model just came out in
>>>>>>> December of 2011, so anything before that would be more
>>>>>>> collapse-prone.  A lot of people, including myself, seem to
>>>>>>> really like this newer one.  Different strokes for different
>>>>>>> folks, but don't base an opinion of an entire company over one
>>>>>>> cane from several years ago which has since been improved upon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/30/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Those Chris Parks canes are nothing but trouble!
>>>>>>>> Those were the ones that collapse too much!
>>>>>>>> His folding canes are awful too!
>>>>>>>> I got the telescoping cane in 2010, and I didn't like it.
>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Brice
>>>>>>>> Smith [brice.smith319 at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:45 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm still a bit confused. Which model is the one listed on the
>>>>>>>> site now? Is the Chris Parks model now "old" and is there a
>>>>>>>> newer model out now? You and I both must Have bought his model
>>>>>>>> last year. Have they replaced it with something different? Even
>>>>>>>> better?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2013, at 10:55 PM, Kaiti Shelton
>>>>>>>> <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, they're well worth checking into, or at least I think so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found out why I wasn't seeing it in the search results; The
>>>>>>>>> NFB site groups all types of canes together, but doesn't
>>>>>>>>> descriminate between the models.  So, I was seeing pictures of
>>>>>>>>> the older canes because that's the type the new one still fits
>>>>>>>>> under, (5 or 6 section telescopic). The particular cane I got
>>>>>>>>> last time was made by Chris Parks, and I just got it because it
>>>>>>>>> was what they had in stock.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> don't show it on the site, but if you know the particular model
>>>>>>>>> you want you can request it in the comments section when you
>>>>>>>>> check
> out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/29/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I want to look at the new ones.
>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kaiti
>>>>>>>>>> Shelton [crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, I didn't say that you said anything, I was merely
>>>>>>>>>> sharing my experiences. I've heard from several people that
>>>>>>>>>> those canes are thought to be indestructible, so it seemed
>>>>>>>>>> like it might have been a common misconception.
>>>>>>>>>> That is what is so improved about this model of the telescopic
>>>>>>>>>> cane, it doesn't collapse near as much as the old oones. I
>>>>>>>>>> rarely had to stop and fix mine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 29, 2013, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kaiti!
>>>>>>>>>>> I never said that the Ambutech canes were indestructable.
>>>>>>>>>>> I just wish that they'd make the telescopic canes more
>>>>>>>>>>> stirdy, so that they'll collapse, only when I want them to.
>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org <javascript:;>] on
>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of Kaiti Shelton [crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *the beginning of that was supposed to say that I'm the
>>>>>>>>>>> opposite.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the weird cut off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/29/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> posite; telescopic canes last much longer for me than the
>>>>>>>>>>>> folding ones, I think because of the weight and because of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my pace.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> why I prefer the NFB canes and will most likely avoid the
>>>>>>>>>>>> bulky folding ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The next time someone tells you an Ambutech cane, or an
>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum one, is indestructable, don't necessarily buy it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the first week of school this year I was going out to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> campus event with some friends and because I had issues with
>>>>>>>>>>>> people stepping on and breaking my telescopic canes in high
>>>>>>>>>>>> school I chose to take my folding one from ambutech.  It was
>>>>>>>>>>>> so heavy for me that when I stepped off the curb it went
>>>>>>>>>>>> down into a drainage grate.  It must have gone right between
>>>>>>>>>>>> the bars because I didn't feel it hit anything or realize it
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't on the ground, but I kept walking and tripped when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> felt that my cane wasn't coming with me.  I dropped it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> when a friend of mine grabbed it and pulled it out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> grate the bottom shaft was sliced open where the grate had
>>>>>>>>>>>> dug into it and it was bent at a 45 degree angle from where
>>>>>>>>>>>> it should have been.  For a while I used a straight cane
>>>>>>>>>>>> that was kind of my old-faithful cane, (My O&M instructor
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I made it when I was in the 4th grade and I still had it
>>>>>>>>>>>> as a college freshman).  It was a little short for me, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't grow much after making it so it would have worked all
>>>>>>>>>>>> right till I could order a new one over Christmas break.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then again, I was walking with friends, and the cane got
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck in a really big crack in the sidewalk.  When we pulled
>>>>>>>>>>>> it out the tip was still wedged into the crack, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom of the shaft was dented all over to the point where I
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt another tip would be able to stay on it.  (The kicker
>>>>>>>>>>>> was that this all happened within a month).  Then I started
>>>>>>>>>>>> using the telescopic cane because I had no other choice, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> not only were people more conscious about avoiding stepping
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a white stick, but all my problems with grates and
>>>>>>>>>>>> sidewalk cracks magically went away.  (and my wrist liked it
>>>>>>>>>>>> better too).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/29/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing I should mention, is that I found out that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cane tips cost over $1.50, per tip!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good grief!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those tips are small, unlike the tips you find on VR canes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not just charge 50 cents a tip?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua Lester [JLester8462 at pccua.edu]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Telescopic cane question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought an NFB folding cane, and a straight cane from them!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had issues with the tip coming off of the straight cane,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the folding cane broke after the first day, because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they aren't stirdy enough!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a telescoping cane as well, and it would collapse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I didn't want it to, and it wouldn't collapse when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ambutech, (on the other hand,) is awesome!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their canes are stirdyer, and they may be bulky, but they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the job done!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine myself with a thinner cane, no matter what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Ambutech cane has lasted longer than my VR canes, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those NFB canes combined!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kaiti
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelton [crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:10 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4cla
>>>>>>>>>>> rinet104%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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