[nabs-l] canes and water park rides
Kirt Manwaring
kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 05:31:13 UTC 2013
Kaiti,
Again I'm going to be nitpicky so I expect you to take what I'm
saying and do with it as you like. I seldom ask people things like
"where is the ice cream parlor?" Instead, I much prefer, especially
if I know the address of the place I'm looking for, to ask something
like "what address are we at right now?", or "how many blocks down is
Jefferson street?" That way, people don't really have to give
directions at all, they just give you the information you need to give
yourself directions and there's less of a chance they'll mess up...am
I making any sense?
Also, especially if you'll be using an iphone, it's more likely
probably that your GPS will die before you run in to a situation where
you can't flag someone down and get directions if you need them.
Although I'm the kind of person who has no qualms about entering a
random business and asking for its address or, if I'm really in dire
straights, flagging down a driver and asking those same questions..so
I'm sure my methods for getting information won't work for everyone,
and that's fine.
Don't get me wrong, I love using my GPS to get that same information
without going out of my way to ask people for it. A GPS can certainly
be a very useful tool; I'm not even saying you are wrong, I'm just
saying why I think the way I do and feel free to ignore it all if you
like. For me a GPS is kind of like having a debit or credit card;
it's very convenient, but it can be over-used and I can get by just as
well with cash if I need to. I know it's a stupid analogy but I'm
tired, my brain hurts, so you'll have to forgive me. :)
Best,
Kirt
On 4/2/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ashley,
> The best for you isn't necessarily the best for everyone. I know
> I've been really nit picky as of late but I'd say take care using
> words like "best" when you're dealing with a variety of people with a
> wide range of personal styles and preferences. I can say that, for
> me, having a guide is only best if it's a really crowded place and I
> don't want to get separated from a group...for you, it might be best
> more often. So, even though it probably sounds like I'm splitting
> hairs, I think it's important to consider.
> Best,
> (I just said best even though I just told you not to say it...I'm a
> hypocrite!),
> Kirt
>
> On 4/2/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>> Six Flags north of Chicago
>> It was a few years back.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Suzanne,
>>> Which park was this? I haven't been to parks in a long time. I used the
>>> blind privelege at Disney world.
>>> and got to go in the front of the line with my parents.
>>>
>>> As for canes, I cannot imagine bringing it on a ride except for maybe
>>> those sitting rides that go in a straight line with no turns; Turning
>>> can
>>> cause the cane to fly out of the ride. I would have someone hold my cane
>>> til I got off the ride and I certainly would not want a cane on a water
>>> ride since its wet.
>>>
>>> I think guides are the best option for parks.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Germano
>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:25 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
>>>
>>> That's interesting I am legally blind and don't use dog or cane but go
>>> to
>>> guest services and they give me a line pass so you can go up the exit.
>>> You
>>> have to wait one hour to go on the same ride again. But every ride you
>>> can
>>> go up the exit and not wait in line.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Chris Nusbaum
>>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>**
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So they let you cut through the line with a dog, but not with a cane?
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Sarah
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:40 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
>>>>
>>>> Because with my dog, they let me right on, and they watch the dog very
>>>> carefully even when someone else is holding it so nobody pets it while
>>>> you're on the ride. With a cane, they will just say "Wait 4 hours like
>>>> everyone else."
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:26:25 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
>>>>
>>>> Sarah,
>>>>
>>>> Just curious: how is Six Flags more accommodating to a guide dog user
>>>> than
>>>> to a cane user?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Sarah Meeks
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:56 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
>>>>
>>>> My best amusement park experience has always been Six Flags.
>>>> They are very
>>>> accommodating. There you are more accommodating now that I have a dog.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yay for Disney! they were by far my best park experience. I went
>>>> twice
>>>> as a little kid. The first time I went I was five or six and my
>>>> parents
>>>> also had a baby in a stroller, so the practice for both me and my
>>>> sister
>>>> was to hold onto our brother's stroller to keep with our parents and
>>>> not
>>>> get lost. My parents just gave me verbal direction and were with me
>>>> the
>>>> entire time, so there really wasn't a major need for a cane. When I
>>>> went
>>>> again as an older kid though, I did have a folding cane and the Disney
>>>> staff was very good about either showing me tricks to keep it with me
>>>> or
>>>> holding it and then giving it back to me when I got off, even on water
>>>> rides like Splash Mountain and the Pirates of the Caribbean rides
>>>> which
>>>> start in one place and end at another. If you have a folding cane you
>>>> can
>>>> secure it folded with the loop and then put your wrist through the
>>>> cane
>>>> and
>>>> the strap and just let it hang as you hold onto something. It won't
>>>> flop
>>>> around as much as the telescopic cane. Also, the holster idea sounds
>>>> good,
>>>> although some park personelle at other amusement parks get worried
>>>> about
>>>> it coming lose. Either way, you shouldn't have any problems with
>>>> getting
>>>> the ride people to bring you your cane at the ride exit.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, Universal Studios was excellent about working with the
>>>> cane
>>>> too. I went there in the same vacation that I went to Disney for the
>>>> second time and they were very accomodating.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/1/13, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sophie,
>>>> I'm one of those random oddballs who would probably go alone if I
>>>> was
>>>> traveling, and there was a really cool theme park near by.
>>>> I
>>>> know it's not for everyone, but occasionally doing those kinds of
>>>> "social"
>>>> things by myself is fun for me; both to keep my confidence up and to
>>>> meet
>>>> people that I otherwise wouldn't get to know.
>>>> Anyways, I've taken my straight cane to theme parks no problem, but
>>>> I'll
>>>> confess I haven't tried a water park with it yet. A collapsible or
>>>> folding
>>>> cane seems more reasonable to me there. On rollercoasters or big
>>>> rides
>>>> like that, I've almost always just given my straight cane to the ride
>>>> attendant and picked it up when the ride is done, but those rides
>>>> usually
>>>> start and end at the same place.
>>>> Waterslides
>>>> and things are different though, obviously.
>>>> Basically, I've been reading this thread to see what useful bits I
>>>> could
>>>> glean from it, as I'll probably be going to a few water parks myself
>>>> over
>>>> the summer. Maybe this will finally give me the motivation I need to
>>>> buy
>>>> another collapsible or NFB folding cane. (I actually liked mine for
>>>> the
>>>> year or so it lasted, but I used it sparingly and certainly not as my
>>>> primary cane.) Thanks, all, for the help and suggewstions.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kirt
>>>>
>>>> On 3/31/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I would where a belt around my bathing suit, and Use a folding cane
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> holster.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.**org<nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Cindy
>>>> Bennett
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:25 PM
>>>> To: National Asociation of Blind Students
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] canes and water park rides
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> This summer, I am going to a water park. When I go to theme parks, I
>>>> typically store my cane somewhere outside the ride area or on the exit
>>>> side
>>>> of a roller coaster platform. However, many water rides are such that
>>>> you
>>>> get on the ride in a different location, often quite a walk away, from
>>>> the
>>>> place where you get off of the ride.
>>>> My
>>>> cane is too long to fit in many inner tubes, and I doubt that it
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> a safe thing to bring along especially if it came loose.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering if a telescoping cane would be the best for this,
>>>> because
>>>> I
>>>> know that many water rides have shoe holders. It would just be
>>>> annoying,
>>>> because I would have to rely on someone to guide me back to these shoe
>>>> holders that are often at the entrance of the ride.
>>>>
>>>> So what are your suggestions for storing a cane during water rides?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cindy Bennett
>>>> Secretary: National Association of Blind Students Legislative
>>>> Coordinator: National Federation of the Blind of Washington
>>>>
>>>> B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
>>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
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