[nabs-l] Lines

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 4 03:12:59 UTC 2013


Wow, I didn't no you can cut in line like that.  I wouldn't. I can stand up
just fine.  I'm not telling anyone else that they shouldn't. I don't want to
get in someone's grill like that.   

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:40 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lines

what amusement parks do you frequent that let you do this, Sara?
You get to ride lots more than the average person. I don't know how you 
stand all those roller coasters.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sarah
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:05 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lines

My dog is very impati-that about waiting he can't wait in line at
the bank very good without geting restless let alone a theme
park.  Besides, when you don't cart the lines at theme parks
you're lucky if you get to ride like 4 rides because our
amusement parks  are only open like 8 hours at the most.

----- Original Message -----
From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 22:45:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Lines

Hi everyone,

I remember getting those special bracelets that let me cut in
line at
6 Flags here in St.  Louis.  I didn't know better as a kid, but
as I
got older, I've wondered about the logic of such things.  we are
physically capable of standing in line.  Well, there are those
who are
blind and have other disabilities that may prevent them from
doing so.
I just didn't get it.

Now I use a guide dog.  I don't think I've ever chosen to take
her to
an amusement park.  If I had to bring her to an amusement park, I
suppose it would be better for her to cut in line.  I don't think
I
would ever bring her outside in the heat like that for a long
period
of time.  If I went to an amusement park all year round, like it
seems
Sarah does, it would be a different story though.  Then I don't
see
why my dog would have a problem waiting in line.  I'm not sure
though.
Haven't tried it.  Lol

Also the Disney parks have a place where people can keep their
dogs
while they're riding rides.  I don't know much about it, but it's
an
option.

On 4/1/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Thank you Kirt for making such a great point.  When I was
growing up my
parents and friends often pressured me to use my blindness so
that we
could cut lines and sometimes my parents even required it
without
giving me a choice about it.  I used to try and justify our
behavior
but in  the end when I did this I always felt a deep sense of
shame
and anger, but I could never figure out why.  Since then I have
learned
about self-perception theory in psychology classes and I think I
understand why it bothers me (and many of us) so much.
Basically,
self-perception theory posits that we draw conclusions about
ourselves
by observing our own behavior.  I think whenever I used my
blindness as
a reason to get a guest pass and skip the line, it made me start
to
see myself as a handicapped or crippled person, which was very
upsetting.  For some people who have trouble standing for long
periods
of time, or who have guide dogs who get uncomfortable standing
out in
the sun, cutting in line seems legitimate.  But if we can
physically
handle the lines, accepting the special passes doesn't do us any
real
favors.  I insist on standing in line with everyone else because
I want
to see myself (and my fellow blind friends) as strong, healthy,
normal
people.  I feel I have little to gain by skipping the lines, and
much
to lose in terms of self-esteem and self-respect.  I think every
time
we take an accommodation, we need to think about what we are
gaining
from that accommodation vs.  what we are potentially losing in
terms of
normalcy.  If an accommodation like a piece of technology is
truly
necessary, it will give enough benefit that it's worth the
self-esteem
hit.  But if an accommodation isn't really needed, I think we
have more
to lose than we have to gain by accepting it.  For this same
reason I
also do not write off blindness as a reason to claim a tax
deduction.
I am proud to be (barely) earning enough income to be required
to pay
taxes and paying taxes just like anyone else in my income
bracket
makes me feel good about myself and where I belong in the world.
There's also the argument that if we want to be allowed the same
rights sighted people get, we need to be willing to saddle the
extra
responsibilities.  If we want to be allowed to ride amusement
park
rides without discrimination, we need to be willing to wait in
line.
It sends a mixed message to skip the line and then insist on
equal
treatment by the ride operators, just like it sends a mixed
message to
request unnecessary extra time on tests and then ask for a
professor's
letter of recommendation.
Again, though I'm not a dog user, I think having a guide dog is
a
legitimate reason to not wait in lines.
Arielle

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Julie McG
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Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
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