[nabs-l] Google car takes to the streets

Fri Apr 12 03:32:30 UTC 2013

Hi, List,

On the other hand, for my whole life I have watched sighted folk seem 
to agonize over so much turmoil, and hostility towrd their fellow 
man, as they drive. I have always been grateful not having that crap 
to contend with. Besides, I am not confident about chances of ever 
affording such a car. And, I don't care about the principles personal 
cars supposedly afford. Where can they take you that a bus, train, or 
friend/driver cannot?
  Ultimately, i believe traveling from point A to point B, oughta be 
a communal affair. Leave the driving to ol' Sighty!
So no, on the car!
Car At 06:23 PM 4/11/2013, Sophie Trist wrote:
>I can't wait to see these google cars come out. It will be a major 
>milestone in the independence and assimulation of blind people in 
>sighted society. My only worry is that the sighties won't trust us 
>to drive, even (maybe especially) if the car was 
>computer-controlled. Even my boyfriend, who is blind, says he will 
>never trust a self-propelled car. Our trouble will be convincing 
>them that it's safe for us and for others on the road.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:02:08 -0700
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Google car takes to the streets
>
>Hello,
>The reason why the Google Car is Superior is because it is already going
>mainstream, it has a major company behind it and there is nothing wrong with
>backing both cars.
>The big debate will be if people want to drive under their own control or a
>computers. It is not unlike reading Braille or using a screen reader to read
>a book. Braille is all fine and dandy, but a screen reader is very
>important. The difference is the Google car is going mainstream and will
>have mainstreem support. It would be the same if Jaws went mainstreem and
>companies like Google started making units that used Jaws and no screen.
>Braille would be useful, but not particularly necessary for most common
>tasks.
>If one used a car on city roads and highways, there would be very little or
>no need to manually drive. If one wanted to map a long driveway or country
>road, one would need to manually drive it till the road could be completely
>entered into the database.
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sophie Trist
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:37 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Google car takes to the streets
>
>Brandon, I totally 100% agree!!! However, didn't the NFB invent a
>self-propelled car of sorts? If so, it might be hard to convince
>them to back the google car unless we can prove theirs is
>superior.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:05:01 -0700
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Google car takes to the streets
>
>Hello,
>Yes in a way, the logistics of liability still need to be taken
>into account
>I'm sure and licensing probably still needs to be worked out, but
>if the
>government officials are pushed, it will happen very soon.
>I think the NFB should push for these quite hard. Perhaps they
>could even
>ask that a car come to the convention, I think Google would take
>the
>challenge.
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Justin Young
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:13 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Google car takes to the streets
>
>So does this mean these vehicles will soon be on the market for
>individuals to purchase in Nevada?  Sounds like a very
>interesting
>project.
>
>On 4/11/13, Robert William Kingett <kingettr at gmail.com> wrote:
>Google's self-driven cars will soon be appearing on Nevada roads
>after
>the state's Department of Motor Vehicles approved on Monday the
>nation's
>first autonomous vehicle license.
>
>The move came after officials rode along on drives on highways,
>in
>Carson City neighborhoods and along the famous Las Vegas Strip,
>the
>Nevada DMV said in a statement.
>
>The Nevada legislature last year authorized self-driven cars for
>the
>state's roads, the first such law in the United States. That law
>went
>into effect on March 1, 2012.
>
>Google's self-driven cars rely on video cameras, radar sensors,
>lasers,
>and a database of information collected from manually driven
>cars to
>help navigate, according to the company.
>
>The DMV licensed a Toyota Prius that Google modified with its
>experimental driver-less technology, developed by Stanford
>professor and
>Google Vice President Sebastian Thrun.
>
>Google's self-driving cars have crossed the Golden Gate Bridge
>and
>driven along the picturesque Pacific Coast Highway, according to
>the
>company.
>
>Autonomous vehicles are the "car of the future," Nevada DMV
>director
>Bruce Breslow said in a statement. The state also has plans to
>eventually license autonomous vehicles owned by the members of
>the
>public, the DMV said.
>
>Legislation to regulate autonomous cars is being considered in
>other
>states, including Google's home state of California.
>
>"The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error.
>Through
>the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous
>vehicle
>is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and
>operating the vehicle more safely," California state Senator
>Alex
>Padilla said in March when he introduced that state's autonomous
>car
>legislation.
>
>Other car companies are also seeking self-driven car licenses in
>Nevada,
>the DMV said.
>
>
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