[nabs-l] Studying Law

Fri Apr 26 03:38:51 UTC 2013

Agreed.  Toastmasters, debate team, Academic bowl, or anything along
those lines would be great for an aspiring lawyer to get involved in.
Debate would be great if you wanted to practice forming arguments and
rebuttles, and aside from being fun academic bowl teams really help
you get fast at recalling facts.  Also, some schools have mock trial
teams or classes you can sign up for, so I'd definitely check if your
school has one or the other.

On 4/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> One of the things I think would really be beneficial for you is if you
> sit down with your advisor and formulate a plan.  My department
> requires everyone to make a plan at least for the duration of time
> they're in school there, some choose to plan further ahead like for
> grad school or internships from the start.  This plan mapps out short
> and long term goals, the skills you want to master, and the courses
> you need to take to fulfill all your requirements.  You can tick these
> off as you go and you're supposed to update your list to make it more
> precise as things change.  In theory, your list should shrink in time
> as the number of requirements to complete decreases, but your goals
> should become much more specific and from there you can start planning
> further ahead.  For example, since I'm now done with Freshman year I
> have a three year plan, plus a list of possible internship sites I
> might want to keep an eye on for later.  I can see the things I've
> improved on over this year as well as the things I want to work on,
> and used the planning sheet to keep myself on track for scheduling
> next semester.  It's a great way to keep yourself on track and
> organized.  You can do this on your own if you're comfortable just
> perusing your school web sites for the information, but since you're
> looking more long term to an undergrad degree and law school I think
> it would be great to do some of this with an advisor's input, or map
> something out and let them know what you think and see how that stacks
> up.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On 4/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, I even have heard that some lawyers specialize in technology law.
>>  They primarily work in areas like the Cilicon Valley  in California
>> (Sorry... I've written too many papers as of late and can't figure out
>> how to spell things any more), but just about everything has a
>> practical application.  Heck, I know a pre-med major who is
>> considering acutally going into medical law instead of becoming a
>> doctor, so just about anything goes as long as you do it well.
>>
>> On 4/25/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Arielle, The way I understand it, law schools don't really care what
>>> your
>>> undergraduate degree is. If anything, I've been encouraged to stay away
>>> from
>>> things like history and political science if I want to go to law school,
>>> most people I've talked to seemed to think law schools appreciate more
>>> diversity nowadays. So, the way I've heard it, your undergraduate major
>>> doesn't matter nearly as much as how well you perform in whatever major
>>> you
>>> choose. You might want to think about majors that would give you
>>> practical
>>> experience similar to what you would be doing in the field of law. For
>>> example, an English major might get you used to riding large papers,
>>> which
>>> is an integral part of being a lawyer. A philosophy major would teach
>>> you
>>> all about how to make logical arguments Which are internally consistent
>>> And
>>> valid… Obviously, that would be invaluable preparation for law.  For
>>> that
>>> matter, something like a communications major would give you public
>>> speaking
>>> experience, as well as teach you how to present your case is
>>> effectively…
>>> If
>>> you wanted to be one of those lawyers who actually argue in court, this
>>> could be very helpful. Majors like economics, business, accounting and
>>> the
>>> light could be incredible ass sex if you wanted to do corporate or
>>> financial
>>> wall later on. For that matter, the mental work out you would get from
>>> something like engineering or mathematics would serve you well later on.
>>> So,
>>> if you want to go to law school, I would say pick a major that you like
>>> and
>>> do very well with it.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might also talk to a history or political science advisor to see
>>>> if they've worked with pre-law students before and what classes they
>>>> would recommend. (I'm guessing many law students start out in
>>>> political science, right?) If you're planning to transfer to a
>>>> four-year university after getting an A.A. degree, it might not much
>>>> matter what your A.A. is in, but like Kaiti said there might be
>>>> classes you can take at the A.A. phase to help you get a head start on
>>>> pre-law requirements.
>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Helga,
>>>>>
>>>>> So just so I understand, you're working on an associates now, then
>>>>> transfering to FAU for your undergrad, and then law school after that?
>>>>> I don't see why it wouldn't help, but I also don't know how an
>>>>> associates degree would tie in to law school exactly.  I would talk to
>>>>> the English advisor; I'm not sure what they'll be able to do, as if
>>>>> I'm understanding your plans I think your bachelors degree advisor
>>>>> might have more to do with the law aspect of things, but it's worth a
>>>>> shot.  Getting set up with your advisor and letting them know sounds
>>>>> like the first step in the right direction; even as someone with a
>>>>> concentration in English an advisor might be able to steer you towards
>>>>> other classes that might be able to be taken early and transfer over
>>>>> to FAU so you don't have to spend as much or take them twice depending
>>>>> on the circumstances, or they can give you a head start on learning
>>>>> the law material.  For example, I know a girl who's a history pre-law
>>>>> major here who's advisor suggested she take Philosophy of Law now.
>>>>> Slightly different subject, but it makes sense.  Give the advisor a
>>>>> try.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/24/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Go get them.  Good luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:52 AM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Kaiti. this is Helga. I just wanted to tell you that I'm doing an
>>>>>> English major in order to transfer to FAU (Florida Atlantic
>>>>>> Univercity)
>>>>>> because in Palm Beach State College I still need to complete my
>>>>>> ASsociates
>>>>>> of ARTS degree before transfering to FAU. Do you think I should speak
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> English department adviser in order to tell him or her my carreer
>>>>>> plans?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was just wondering. Thank you so much. God bless!! :) -----Original
>>>>>> Message-----
>>>>>> From: Kaiti Shelton
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:23 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Helga,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Suzanne is right.  The way I'm set up I have my disability
>>>>>> coordinator,
>>>>>> who does all my testing and school accomodations, makes sure I have
>>>>>> everything I need in terms of textbooks and that the IT department
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> "Jaws-proofed," the web sites so I can get to all the information.
>>>>>> She's
>>>>>> great, but like other disability services personelle across the board
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> colleges that's what she specializes in.  She wouldn't be able to
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> advice on my major because that's stuff she doesn't know.  I'd set up
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> meeting with an advisor for your major.  If you've already declared
>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>> as pre-law, you should be able to go to that department or your
>>>>>> college
>>>>>> within the university whatever it may be called to find out who that
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> you've declared something else as a lead up to law school, like
>>>>>> business,
>>>>>> human rights, international studies, history, psychology, etc, then
>>>>>> you'd
>>>>>> want to go to that department and start with that advisor first,
>>>>>> letting
>>>>>> them know that you want to persue law school after completing your
>>>>>> undergrad
>>>>>> from the get go.  My advisor, for example, is a music therapist, so
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> the background and experience to advise me and the other music
>>>>>> therapy
>>>>>> majors on what steps to take in order to fulfill our academic
>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>> Once you find out who your advisor is you should be able to have a
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> your questions explained, and they'll be there for you to go over
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> each time before you schedule new classes which is really nice
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> sometimes they catch mistakes you miss when trying to plan your
>>>>>> schedule
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> your own.  Most advisors are also free by email or phone to discuss
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> questions throughout the year as needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes students will have two advisors though.  For example, I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> people who are double majoring who have a separate advisor for each
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> majors, and those advisors can communicate with each other through
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mutual student to make sure all the requirements are being met.  I
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> know how this works to an extent, because although I don't have a
>>>>>> separate
>>>>>> advisor for my psych minor I still have to make sure I follow the
>>>>>> psych
>>>>>> department guidelines and get in touch with someone who is a psych
>>>>>> department advisor in case I'm confused or need clarification on the
>>>>>> guidelines for getting the minor.  This is because although music
>>>>>> therapy
>>>>>> uses a lot of psych, it really isn't my advisor's responsibility to
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> full ins and outs of other majors and minors outside of the one he
>>>>>> advises
>>>>>> for.  I don't want to make generalizations, but so far in my
>>>>>> experiences
>>>>>> with different colleges that's how I've seen it work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps.  Good luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kaiti,
>>>>>> Music Therapy major, University of Dayton class of 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/24/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> You should talk to the adviser of the major you are in. Most
>>>>>>> colleges
>>>>>>> make you meet with the adviser before registering for classes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Helga <helga.schreiber at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kaiti. Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely will join the
>>>>>>>> Blind
>>>>>>>> lawyers list. Yeah, I actually have a dissability advisor at my
>>>>>>>> school, but she is not really a good help regarding Law classes,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> she is not really good help with my general classes that I'm taking
>>>>>>>> right now even though she gives me accomodations letters to give to
>>>>>>>> my professors. Is your adviser a regular adviser, or a disability
>>>>>>>> adviser? Just curious. Do you think I should talk to a regular
>>>>>>>> adviser, not a disability? By the way, What carreer are you
>>>>>>>> studying,
>>>>>>>> and what college do you attend? Just wondering.
>>>>>>>> I'm actually from Florida, and I attend Palmbeach State College of
>>>>>>>> Boca Raton. Thanks so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Kaiti Shelton
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:02 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Helga,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although I'm not studying law, I may have a few tips that can be of
>>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>> If you go to nfbnet.org and click the link that says "Join or Drop
>>>>>>>> NFB lists," the same page where this one was located, you can find
>>>>>>>> the blindlaw email list.  Although there are probably a few law
>>>>>>>> students on the NABS list somewhere, the law list would probably be
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> more direct way of reaching them and other people who have already
>>>>>>>> gone through school and can offer their advice.
>>>>>>>> Second, if you have an advisor at your school who knows of your
>>>>>>>> pre-law plans they should be able to explain the best order to take
>>>>>>>> classes in and what you'll need to be successful.  I always consult
>>>>>>>> with my advisor well before scheduling not only to make sure my
>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>> semester courses are what they should be, but also to make sure I'm
>>>>>>>> on track for the future.  Since he's been there and done that in my
>>>>>>>> chosen career too, it's also nice meeting with him because I can
>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>> him questions and see what he has to say from his experiences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope these help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/24/13, Helga <helga.schreiber at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                    Hi guys, this is Helga. What's up? I just would
>>>>>>>>> like to ask you guys a question. How many of you are studying the
>>>>>>>>> Law carreer, or planning to study to become a Lawyer? I was just
>>>>>>>>> curious since I'm studying to become a Lawyer. Also, How do you
>>>>>>>>> handle your books and materials in order to study for Law, and
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> kind of classes you are taking or need to take in order to
>>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>>> this carreer? Did you read your books and materials in Braille in
>>>>>>>>> order to study for it? I was just wondering since I'm still
>>>>>>>>> Freshman
>>>>>>>>> in college, and I'm not quite there yet in knowing what classes to
>>>>>>>>> take in order to achieve this future carreer. What class you guys
>>>>>>>>> recommend me to take first? Actually, I'm just now working on
>>>>>>>>> completing my general classes first. Thanks so much. God bless!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Kaiti
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