[nabs-l] the test accomodations

Sat Apr 27 03:00:51 UTC 2013

Sounds like a possible ADA case if it gets to far.

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:21 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations

Arielle,
oOh, um, this is a community college. I'm finished my BA degree but taking 
classes to further my studies and get a writing certificate. The class I 
need a competent reader for is religion.
No a TA won't work. Also, Its community college.
you make it sound easy. Gee, I do wish I could get my own readers. Gosh. I 
can think of like 20 people who would be competent readers and have a clue 
how to read such a test. But no, they don't allow me to do this.

I do indeed have my own readers for studying and reading texts and looking 
up material and research, but
no I cannot bring a reader to the exam. Personally, I think this is a legal 
matter and they need to change the policy so you can have the option to 
bring your own competent reader as an accomodation under the ADA. Its not 
fair, not equal access, and can cause one to get a lower
grade using bad readers.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arielle Silverman
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:45 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations

You can also ask the professor if the teaching assistant can
read/scribe your exam, if there is one for the class. Most teaching
assistants are graduate students or advanced undergraduates in the
department and should know the material well, and since they're
trusted employees of the professor, they are trusted not to help you
cheat. Plus, many TA's have nothing else to do during an exam and
would otherwise just be sitting around. If the class has no teaching
assistant, as in a community college, maybe the professor could read
it for you and scribe your answers during office hours the day before
the test or some such?
I know that blind students have hired their own readers for testing,
which allows them to pick people who are competent. Some disability
services offices frown on this practice because they prefer to hire
and manage readers themselves, but it's an option that's at least
worth discussing with your professor, who might not care much.
Arielle

On 4/27/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
> I haven't used readers since I am a partial and use cctv but when I had
> disabled students pay for a chemistry lab aid I insisted the person was a
> chem major and an A student.
>
> So maybe you could find your readers through the department. And then you
> interview them by having them read to you.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm in the middle of the nightmare that is transferring between colleges,
>> but the college I am leaving almost always provided me with competent and
>> capable readers. Sure, they might pronounce a few words incorrectly But
>> they knew how to read out loud.  I hope I don't run into the same problem
>> you are dealing with right now and my next college.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > As finals approach, I wanted to know what test accomodations you get.
>> > Do
>> you feel they are adaquate and meet your needs?
>> > If you need a reader and person to scribe your answers on a scantron,
>> how are they? Are they competent readers?
>> >
>> > I'm going through a discriminatory situation now. Most my readers were
>> incompetent but I got around that by asking them to speak slower and
>> repeat
>> things; I mean they could not speak all that clearly and read fast and
>> spoke to the paper not articulately to me. Many exams I took with jaws to
>> avoid this; I feel this way is slower for me and a reader can directly
>> mark
>> my answers on a scantron as well as go back to questions I missed. If I
>> need a reader scribe I should be given a competent reader.
>> >
>> > I'll tell more about this specific test issue in another message.
>> >
>> > Look forward to seeing your responses.
>> >
>> > Ashley
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